Prisoners: Imprisonment for Public Protection Debate

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Department: Ministry of Justice

Prisoners: Imprisonment for Public Protection

Lord Morris of Aberavon Excerpts
Wednesday 1st March 2023

(1 year, 8 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Bellamy Portrait Lord Bellamy (Con)
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My Lords, the then Government decided that the abolition of the IPP sentence should not be retrospective. The existing IPP action plan has had a certain degree of success, and the revised IPP action plan will, we hope, fully address the problem.

Baroness Williams of Trafford Portrait Baroness Williams of Trafford (Con)
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My Lords, it is the turn of the Labour Benches.

Lord Morris of Aberavon Portrait Lord Morris of Aberavon (Lab)
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My Lords, to simplify the situation and make it abundantly clear: are the numbers rising or lowering in each category?

Lord Bellamy Portrait Lord Bellamy (Con)
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My Lords, I am not sure I entirely understood the noble and learned Lord’s question.

Lord Morris of Aberavon Portrait Lord Morris of Aberavon (Lab)
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My Lords, what I want to know is whether the numbers of these prisoners are rising or lowering in each category.

Lord Bellamy Portrait Lord Bellamy (Con)
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They are currently, in broad terms, about the same. We have 1,400 who have never been released; we have 1,500, roughly speaking, on licence; we are releasing, including rereleases, about 600 a year; and recalls are running at slightly less than that.