Debates between Lord Livermore and Baroness Wheatcroft during the 2024 Parliament

United Kingdom Declining Birth Rate

Debate between Lord Livermore and Baroness Wheatcroft
Wednesday 6th November 2024

(2 weeks, 5 days ago)

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Lord Livermore Portrait Lord Livermore (Lab)
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To clarify, the OBR is very clear that, over the next five years, employment will grow by 1.2 million people.

Baroness Wheatcroft Portrait Baroness Wheatcroft (CB)
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The Joseph Rowntree Foundation calculates that 30% of children are living in poverty. Does the Minister have access to any information on what that might mean for long-term fertility prospects in this country?

Lord Livermore Portrait Lord Livermore (Lab)
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The noble Baroness makes a very important point, which is why reducing child poverty is central to this Government’s objectives. The previous Labour Government made massive strides towards reducing child poverty and, unfortunately, we had to sit and watch while it rose under the party opposite over 14 years. We have established the Child Poverty Taskforce to ensure it falls. It is a contributing factor, but so are affordable housing and affordable childcare, as I have said, and we are prioritising all those things.

Fiscal Rules

Debate between Lord Livermore and Baroness Wheatcroft
Tuesday 29th October 2024

(3 weeks, 6 days ago)

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Lord Livermore Portrait Lord Livermore (Lab)
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It may surprise the noble Lord but, yes, I absolutely agree with what he says. That will be a vital part of the guard-rails we set out in the Budget tomorrow.

Baroness Wheatcroft Portrait Baroness Wheatcroft (CB)
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My Lords, borrowing to invest in genuine projects that will improve the productivity of the country obviously makes sense, but if the Government are going to look at the fiscal rules again, will they consider when and how they will account for unfunded public sector pensions? At some stage, the country needs to know about those obligations too.

Lord Livermore Portrait Lord Livermore (Lab)
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I hear what the noble Baroness says. As I have said already, the Chancellor will set out the Government’s full fiscal plan, including the precise details of our fiscal rules, in tomorrow’s Budget.

Public Spending: Inheritance

Debate between Lord Livermore and Baroness Wheatcroft
Tuesday 30th July 2024

(3 months, 4 weeks ago)

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Lord Livermore Portrait Lord Livermore (Lab)
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I am extremely grateful to my noble friend for his kind words. He is quite right: not only are the previous Government guilty of what we are discussing today, of running up an enormous overspend and of hiding that from Parliament, the public and the Opposition at the time, but they left us with possibly the worst economic inheritance since the Second World War. That contrasts sharply with the performance of the economy under the last Labour Government. Of course, growth is absolutely our priority. That growth will take time, but we are absolutely committed to doing what it takes to return this economy to a sustainable level of growth.

Baroness Wheatcroft Portrait Baroness Wheatcroft (CB)
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My Lords, I welcome the Minister to his position on the Front Bench. As we listen to this tale of consistent overspend and budget failures being swept under the carpet, it is very hard to imagine that civil servants in several departments were not increasingly unhappy about what was going on, including a lack of a spending review since 2021—extraordinary really. Can the Minister assure those civil servants that they will not be guilty if they come forward and talk of any pressures that have been applied to them? The previous Government had form on that, and I think that there should be an amnesty for any civil servant who was put in a deeply uncomfortable position by, in effect, telling untruths to the country.

Lord Livermore Portrait Lord Livermore (Lab)
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I am grateful to the noble Baroness for her question. Of course, at the end of the day, civil servants advise and Ministers decide. We have full confidence in the Treasury and all civil servants in the way that they do their jobs. She is absolutely right that part of the problem was the continual delay to hold a spending review; the last spending review was in 2021. That sits behind so many of these problems: that budgets were never adjusted to account for any of the decisions that were taken subsequent to that spending review.

The Chancellor announced yesterday that she has commissioned the OBR to deliver a full economic and fiscal forecast, which will be presented alongside a Budget on 30 October. She also announced that the Government have launched a multi-year spending review to conclude in spring 2025, setting budgets for at least three years of the five-year forecast period. As part of this, final budgets for this year and next year will be set alongside the Budget on 30 October. The Government are also committed to holding a spending review every two years, which will set departmental expenditure limits for three years, to avoid uncertainty for departments and bring stability back to our public finances.

European Investment Bank

Debate between Lord Livermore and Baroness Wheatcroft
Wednesday 24th July 2024

(4 months ago)

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Baroness Wheatcroft Portrait Baroness Wheatcroft (CB)
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If the Government are to set a good example about investing in the UK, should they not perhaps start at home and invest a little more of the MPs’ pension fund?

Lord Livermore Portrait Lord Livermore (Lab)
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I think that is a question for Parliament rather than the Government.