Northern Ireland: Illegal Petrol and Diesel Debate

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Department: HM Treasury

Northern Ireland: Illegal Petrol and Diesel

Lord Kennedy of Southwark Excerpts
Tuesday 15th July 2014

(9 years, 10 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Newby Portrait Lord Newby
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My Lords, there is a lot of data published about the duty rates. Noble Lords can see those. What is extremely difficult to do is to demonstrate with any great degree of precision exactly how much of a product crosses a border without a customs post. That is obviously a challenge between the Republic and Northern Ireland, as well as more generally within the EU.

Lord Kennedy of Southwark Portrait Lord Kennedy of Southwark (Lab)
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My Lords, there is also, of course, a problem of smuggling from mainland Europe into the UK. I went down to Dover a couple of years ago and was shocked to see how porous our borders are. We spoke to the customs officer there; in terms of illegal alcohol and tobacco, there just were not the staff to stop the vehicles to check them.

Lord Newby Portrait Lord Newby
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My Lords, tobacco smuggling has been a problem for some time. The additional resources that have gone into HMRC over the course of this Parliament, which amount to about £1 billion, have among other things enabled more to be put into that area also.