Intelligence and Security Committee: Russia Report Debate

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Department: Cabinet Office

Intelligence and Security Committee: Russia Report

Lord Houghton of Richmond Excerpts
Wednesday 22nd July 2020

(4 years, 4 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord True Portrait Lord True
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My Lords, I was not influenced by any Russians. My noble friend touches on something which I beg your Lordships—and have done before—to hold in their mind. The decision to leave Europe was taken by millions upon millions of our fellow countrymen—twice. The result was not hatched in some dacha in Moscow.

Lord Houghton of Richmond Portrait Lord Houghton of Richmond (CB) [V]
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Whatever else this report tells us, it seems clear that the United Kingdom’s democratic processes and political system are unacceptably vulnerable to malign Russian influence. It is further evidence that we live in an age when we cannot properly differentiate between war and peace. Many countries exist in a perpetual state of unarmed conflict with other countries, when mendacious activity below the level of formal warfare is the norm.

In the context of this year’s integrated review of diplomacy, defence and security, what reassurance can the Minister offer that the country has developed, or is developing, the capability not just to mitigate the effects of malign foreign activity, but deter them? An effective deterrent strategy must of course be based on the credibility of capability and the willingness to use it.

Lord True Portrait Lord True
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My Lords, I am not going to comment on operational matters, but the noble Lord obviously touches on important questions, which are firmly on the agenda and in the purview of the Government.