Debates between Lord Harris of Haringey and Lord Blair of Boughton during the 2015-2017 Parliament

Wed 26th Oct 2016
Policing and Crime Bill
Lords Chamber

Committee: 2nd sitting (Hansard - part one): House of Lords & Committee: 2nd sitting (Hansard - part one): House of Lords

Policing and Crime Bill

Debate between Lord Harris of Haringey and Lord Blair of Boughton
Committee: 2nd sitting (Hansard - part one): House of Lords
Wednesday 26th October 2016

(8 years ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Harris of Haringey Portrait Lord Harris of Haringey (Lab)
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My Lords, I understand absolutely the objective of the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, and I have a lot of sympathy with what he is trying to get at. However, perhaps there is also need to look at the extent to which the public who have been victims of crime are also kept informed of the progress of investigations into those crimes. In exactly the same principles that the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, has outlined in terms of complaints against police officers, ought they perhaps also be applied to people who have been victims of crime?

Lord Blair of Boughton Portrait Lord Blair of Boughton (CB)
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I am slightly concerned about the phrase “provisional findings”, because it does not define when that is in an investigation. I should declare an interest that I was head of the complaints investigation branch of the Metropolitan Police Service, the subtitle for whom was the “Prince of Darkness”. One knew the provisional findings, but one had that word “provisional” in front. It slightly worries me that we are pushing a process forward where the complainant is given information that new information then changes. It feels an odd thing to be doing. I would like to know why it has been withdrawn in this Bill, as it may have been withdrawn on quite sensible grounds.