Police and Crime Commissioners and Panels Debate
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(3 years ago)
Lords Chamber Lord Sharpe of Epsom (Con)
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Lord Sharpe of Epsom (Con) 
        
    
        
    
        Actually, that is a helpful question, because the electorate do of course have ultimate responsibility for the election of the PCCs. I am pleased to say that the electorate seem to be becoming more enthusiastic about the elections: turnout has increased every year. Obviously that is not determined by a single factor, but it is going up.
 Lord Grocott (Lab)
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Lord Grocott (Lab) 
        
    
        
    
        My Lords, the Minister’s definition of “enthusiasm” is certainly different from some that I could suggest. One of the main purposes of the whole system of police and crime commissioners was to get closer engagement between the public and policing. With three rounds of police and crime commissioners elections having taken place, the turnout has varied between poor and abysmal. Clearly, they are not fulfilling one of the key reasons for their having been established, so what is the point of them?
 Lord Sharpe of Epsom (Con)
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Lord Sharpe of Epsom (Con) 
        
    
        
    
        I have answered the question about the point. I have the turnout figures: in 2012, it was 15.1%; in 2016, it was 27.4%; and in 2021, it was 33.9%. We cheerfully accept that those are not the greatest numbers—certainly not relative to national elections—but, in a local context, they are not bad.