Lord Clinton-Davis
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(10 years, 4 months ago)
Lords Chamber Lord Clinton-Davis
    
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Lord Clinton-Davis 
        
    
        
    
        
To ask Her Majesty’s Government what consultations they have had with law enforcement agencies and communications companies regarding their proposals to reform the law relating to communications data.
 The Minister of State, Home Office (Lord Bates) (Con)
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            The Minister of State, Home Office (Lord Bates) (Con) 
        
    
        
    
        My Lords, the Government have regular discussions with law enforcement agencies and communications service providers. As was made clear when the report into investigatory powers by David Anderson QC was published, the Government are considering his recommendations carefully and will consult widely with all those affected.
 Lord Clinton-Davis (Lab)
    
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Lord Clinton-Davis (Lab) 
        
    
        
    
        Is it the intention of the Government to consult police officers, which they fail to do at present? Is not the Home Secretary determined to steamroller her so-called snoopers’ charter through Parliament? According to a former leader of the Association of Chief Police Officers, there has been next to no consultation so far with the police. He described the situation as “open warfare”. Is that not highly dangerous, extraordinary and unprecedented?
 Lord Bates
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Lord Bates 
        
    
        
    
        If that were the case, it certainly would be; but my day-to-day experience in the House of Lords is that that could not be further from what is actually happening. We are not steamrollering any legislation through; in fact, we are going through an exhaustive process. David Anderson has taken a year to produce his report. In the mean time, we have had the Intelligence and Security Committee’s detailed report, and we are awaiting a RUSI report. We have had Sir Nigel Sheinwald’s report to the Prime Minister, and we have pledged that there will be pre-legislative scrutiny. If that is a steamroller, I am not quite sure what some of the other legislative processes are.