Debates between Lord Anderson of Ipswich and Lord Cormack during the 2017-2019 Parliament

Mon 15th Jul 2019
Northern Ireland (Executive Formation) Bill
Lords Chamber

Committee: 1st sitting (Hansard): House of Lords & Committee: 1st sitting (Hansard): House of Lords

Northern Ireland (Executive Formation) Bill

Debate between Lord Anderson of Ipswich and Lord Cormack
Committee: 1st sitting (Hansard): House of Lords
Monday 15th July 2019

(5 years, 5 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Anderson of Ipswich Portrait Lord Anderson of Ipswich
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What happened in 1948 was a prorogation to give effect to the provision of the Parliament Act 1911 that approval of the Commons was needed in three successive Sessions. The key distinction between that situation and what is proposed now is that it was a course that the House of Commons desired and was prepared to see go through.

Lord Cormack Portrait Lord Cormack
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Would the noble Lord also remind the Committee that in 1948 there was, relatively speaking, a handful of Members in this House sitting on the Government Benches, and several hundred on the Conservative Benches as the Opposition?

Lord Anderson of Ipswich Portrait Lord Anderson of Ipswich
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I am very grateful to the noble Lord for the point he makes. However, getting hung up on an entirely different precedent from 1948 and suggesting that it might be in some way determinative of the position which we are now asked to contemplate is, I would suggest, too ludicrous to bear.