All 2 Debates between Liz Kendall and Robert Buckland

Wed 15th Nov 2017
European Union (Withdrawal) Bill
Commons Chamber

Committee: 2nd sitting: House of Commons

European Union (Withdrawal) Bill

Debate between Liz Kendall and Robert Buckland
Wednesday 13th June 2018

(6 years, 4 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Robert Buckland Portrait The Solicitor General
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My hon. Friend makes a powerful point about democracy. One of the complaints that was constantly levelled against our membership of the EU was the lack of democracy, and I am pretty sure that if we end up in the position of a rule taker, those arguments will only grow louder and longer.

Liz Kendall Portrait Liz Kendall (Leicester West) (Lab)
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Is it not the case that if we are no longer a member of the single market and we want full access to the single market, we will have to be a rule taker?

Robert Buckland Portrait The Solicitor General
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Therein lies the problem with amendment (a) to Lords amendment 51, tabled by the Labour Front Benchers. What precisely does that amendment mean? Everybody should ponder that question, because I do not think that even they can answer it. The truth is that we are back to the old chestnut of access to the single market, and that in truth means subjection to the four freedoms.

European Union (Withdrawal) Bill

Debate between Liz Kendall and Robert Buckland
Robert Buckland Portrait The Solicitor General
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My right hon. and learned Friend knows that I hold him in the utmost respect—reverence even—but, having discussed the mega task that faces us with the right hon. Member for Birkenhead (Frank Field), I think he will agree that it is probably safer and wiser for the Government, with a belt-and-braces approach, to make sure that we do not have any slips between cup and lip, and that there are no lacunas or loopholes in the law that could actually endanger these protections and rights.

Liz Kendall Portrait Liz Kendall (Leicester West) (Lab)
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I share the concerns of the right hon. and learned Member for Rushcliffe (Mr Clarke). If the Government will not use the powers, why are they giving them to themselves? The Minister talks about dialogue and reassurance, but I have not heard anything practical from him about how he will change the Bill to address these concerns. What is he going to do?

Robert Buckland Portrait The Solicitor General
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I will come to that, but first I want to deal with the amendments tabled by the hon. Lady’s colleagues.

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Liz Kendall Portrait Liz Kendall
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Will the Minister give way?

Robert Buckland Portrait The Solicitor General
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I think I must give way to the hon. Member for North Down (Lady Hermon), who has been waiting for me to allow her to intervene.