Identity Documents Bill

Lindsay Hoyle Excerpts

Wednesday 9th June 2010 Commons Chamber

[Alan Johnson]

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[Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Lindsay Hoyle)]

Order. Before the right hon. Member replies, may I remind people that interventions should be very short?

[Alan Johnson]

I apologise to my right hon. Friend in this broad coalition, but I do not have time to quote the whole speech. Of course he made those points in that very important debate, after which the Tories walked through the Aye Lobby with us. I do not agree that the tests were not met. My point, however, is that the Conservatives are now in government. They can carry out the proposal that was in the Queen’s Speech in 1996 and meet the tests that they set.

That debate took place on 20 December 2004, three years after 9/11 and, unfortunately, seven months before 7/7, and before the airline bomb plot, the liquid bomb plot, and all the other terrorist outrages that we have had to counter. The right hon. Gentleman cannot say that anything has changed in relation to national security except that these problems are more acute. We are at a severe level of readiness. No one on the Government Benches can say, “Well, things have changed since 1996,” or since 2004. They have changed—they have got worse, and that has made the case for ID cards stronger.

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[Several hon. Members]

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[Mr Deputy Speaker]

Order. A limit of 12 minutes on speeches has been applied by Mr Speaker.