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Department: HM Treasury

Oral Answers to Questions

Laurence Robertson Excerpts
Tuesday 11th February 2020

(4 years, 1 month ago)

Commons Chamber
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Seema Malhotra Portrait Seema Malhotra (Feltham and Heston) (Lab/Co-op)
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14. How many people will be affected by the 2019 loan charge after the Government have implemented the recommendations of Sir Amyas Morse’s review.

Laurence Robertson Portrait Mr Laurence Robertson (Tewkesbury) (Con)
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20. How many people will be affected by the 2019 loan charge after the Government have implemented the recommendations of Sir Amyas Morse’s review.

Jesse Norman Portrait The Financial Secretary to the Treasury (Jesse Norman)
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Of the estimated 50,000 individuals affected by the loan charge, the Government currently estimate that more than 30,000 will benefit from the changes. That includes about 11,000 people who will be taken out of paying altogether. In addition, individuals who have settled or who are settling their tax liability with Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs will be out of scope of the charge.

Jesse Norman Portrait Jesse Norman
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The hon. Lady is absolutely right that it is important to crack down on promoters, and at the Budget we will bring forward a package about how to do that. Her wider point, however, is wrong: this is not a retrospective measure. It is also true that the Government have to some extent been vindicated by Sir Amyas Morse, who found that the loan charge was an appropriate way to respond to tax avoidance and, after detailed argumentation, suggested a date in December 2010 as the correct date from which to date the legality of it.

Laurence Robertson Portrait Mr Robertson
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But even 2010 is 10 years ago, so if the law was clear then, as the report suggests, why did HMRC not act then? Surely this matter is its responsibility.

Jesse Norman Portrait Jesse Norman
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HMRC did pursue these cases quite vigorously. Sir Amyas found, on the basis of detailed consideration, that the law was clear then, and therefore HMRC rightly believed that people would accommodate it. Of course, it pursued people who had been avoiding tax through disguised renumeration schemes for many years before that, and it will continue to do so for those that have been carved out by the loan charge review.