Debates between Justin Madders and Munira Wilson during the 2019-2024 Parliament

Tue 23rd Nov 2021
Health and Care Bill
Commons Chamber

Report stageReport Stage day 2

Health and Care Bill

Debate between Justin Madders and Munira Wilson
Justin Madders Portrait Justin Madders
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We are always looking at ways to improve productivity, but we know that on the current figures there are 100,000 staff vacancies in the NHS. No amount of productivity gains will cover for that.

Munira Wilson Portrait Munira Wilson (Twickenham) (LD)
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The hon. Member for North East Bedfordshire (Richard Fuller) talks about efficiency, but the figures show that in 2019-20, some £6.2 billion was spent on bank and agency staff. If we are talking about efficiency and using all the extra money the Government are saying they will put in to catch-up, we need to provide value for money for the taxpayer. Therefore, long-term planning to recruit the right skills is critical.

Justin Madders Portrait Justin Madders
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I thank the hon. Member for her intervention. The point about agencies and locum spend is not a new one. It will be interesting to see the figures for the last 12 to 18 months when the Minister has finally ratified them, because I suspect they will be even higher than those we have heard recently.