Debates between John McDonnell and Joan Walley during the 2010-2015 Parliament

Mon 6th Jan 2014

Water Bill

Debate between John McDonnell and Joan Walley
Monday 6th January 2014

(10 years, 10 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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John McDonnell Portrait John McDonnell
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That is one reason why I support the Welsh model of a not-for-profit company, because, as I say, I feel that the general public have been ripped off throughout this period.

Let me just finish off with my last couple of examples, because I would not want to miss them out: United Utilities was fined £75,000 for management failures that contributed to a fire in October 2013; and Severn Trent Water received a £30,000 fine for sewage pollution in September last year. The performance record of these companies is that not only do they not tackle the leakages and the real need for infrastructure investment, but they are polluting the very water they are supposed to be protecting and supplying.

Joan Walley Portrait Joan Walley (Stoke-on-Trent North) (Lab)
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My hon. Friend mentioned Severn Trent Water. Given the pollution incidents involving water companies, does he agree that there is an urgent need to examine the court costs and fines imposed on water companies? Does he also agree that there is a real danger that some companies might prefer to go ahead, pollute and accept a fine because that approach is nowhere near as expensive as making the investment in the first place?

John McDonnell Portrait John McDonnell
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The drive for profits is making these companies ignore their duty towards the wider environment, and the fines and costs are relatively marginal in comparison with the profits they make.