Oral Answers to Questions Debate

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Department: Department for Education

Oral Answers to Questions

Lord Cryer Excerpts
Monday 11th November 2013

(10 years, 11 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Michael Gove Portrait Michael Gove
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I absolutely would encourage them to do that. Let me pay tribute to the hon. Lady for her work in bringing teachers together in Birmingham to introduce the Birmingham baccalaureate, which is a perfect preparation both for the world of work and for further and higher education. One problem in Birmingham for many years has been a culture of underperformance in far too many schools, and that has been insufficiently challenged by the local authority. It should not have to fall to her to do the job that the council should have been doing, but if I would trust anyone to do that job instead of the council, it would be her.

Lord Cryer Portrait John Cryer (Leyton and Wanstead) (Lab)
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14. What his policy is on oversight of free schools.

Michael Gove Portrait The Secretary of State for Education (Michael Gove)
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Free schools and academies are held more rigorously to account than any other schools.

Lord Cryer Portrait John Cryer
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Well, that is a bit of a shock, because it is widely accepted that the democratic scrutiny and oversight of state schools is pretty intense but hardly exists at all for free schools. Does the Secretary of State not worry that that has led to the scandals of the past few months, which could well be the tip of the iceberg? We could see more scandals over the next few years because of that lack of democratic scrutiny.

Michael Gove Portrait Michael Gove
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I do not know whether the hon. Gentleman was surprised by either the content or the brevity of my response, but let me spell things out in slightly greater detail. Academies and free schools have an accounting officer in the way that local authority schools do not; and academies and free schools have to file accounts every year in a way that local authority schools do not. The National Audit Office has pointed out that the scrutiny of schools by local authorities is not what we should expect. The hon. Gentleman is right that there are problems in individual academies and free schools, but there are also problems in individual local authority schools. We know what has gone wrong in academies and free schools because this Government have put in place an improved system of scrutiny for them.