Debates between Jeremy Hunt and Meg Hillier during the 2017-2019 Parliament

Tue 27th Jun 2017

NHS Shared Business Services

Debate between Jeremy Hunt and Meg Hillier
Tuesday 27th June 2017

(7 years, 5 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Jeremy Hunt Portrait Mr Hunt
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I can absolutely confirm that.

Meg Hillier Portrait Meg Hillier (Hackney South and Shoreditch) (Lab/Co-op)
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I am pleased that the Secretary of State at least acknowledges that this was incompetent but, crucially, does this not run deeper? Problems were first raised in January 2014, and then again internally by an administrator in June 2015. He found out, as Secretary of State for Health, only in March last year, and the Public Accounts Committee found out and was able to look at this only in September, because information was released on the final day that Parliament sat last summer. He talks about transparency, but does he not think there are deeper lessons to be learned here not only about transparency but about how the NHS supports whistleblowers?

Jeremy Hunt Portrait Mr Hunt
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There are two big lessons that we need to learn. First, why did the company have no internal systems in place to deal with the fact that from 2011 the mail was building up into a backlog? According to the NAO report, the situation was not escalated to the chief executive’s level until the end of 2015. That is wholly unacceptable. Secondly, it is also unacceptable that we did not have the assurance systems in place that would have allowed us to know that a backlog was building up. That is why it is so important that lessons are learned.