(13 years, 9 months ago)
Commons Chamber Mr Paice
    
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Mr Paice 
        
    
        
    
        The assurance I can give my hon. Friend is that my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State and I will do everything we can to ensure that future schemes are as simple as possible. As I intimated in answer to an earlier question, we are very concerned that many of the Commission’s proposals would actually make the situation more complicated rather than less so, but I assure him of our determination to improve on them.
 Mr Denis MacShane (Rotherham) (Lab)
    
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Mr Denis MacShane (Rotherham) (Lab) 
        
    
        
    
        Will the Minister confirm that the average payout is about £13,000 a year and yet we are giving giant CAP subsidies to the richest in the land, such as up to €500,000 to Her Majesty and €800,000 to Tate & Lyle? As we are capping benefits for the poor, should we not cap these agricultural benefits for the very rich?
 Mr Paice
    
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Mr Paice 
        
    
        
    
        I readily accept that capping has its attractions for those who want to level down the payments. One reason why this Government and the previous Government have opposed the principle of capping payments is that it would simply cause the fragmentation of farms as they break up to meet the new criteria. That would provide jobs for lawyers, but I am not sure t it would do any other good.