Debates between James Murray and Gary Sambrook during the 2019-2024 Parliament

Tue 14th Sep 2021
Health and Social Care Levy Bill
Commons Chamber

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Health and Social Care Levy Bill

Debate between James Murray and Gary Sambrook
James Murray Portrait James Murray
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My hon. Friend makes an important point about the Conservative Government’s impact on the national health service over the last decade, running it into the ground and leaving it in such a state when the covid pandemic hit.

As my hon. Friend the Member for Leeds West (Rachel Reeves), the shadow Chancellor, said last week:

“There are two tests for the package announced yesterday. First, does it fix social care? Secondly, is it funded fairly?”—[Official Report, 8 September 2021; Vol. 700, c. 327.]

Looking at the Bill, it is clearer than ever that the answer to both those questions remains a resounding no.

Gary Sambrook Portrait Gary Sambrook (Birmingham, Northfield) (Con)
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On the basis of those two tests, which tax would the hon. Gentleman increase to pay for social care?

James Murray Portrait James Murray
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We are clear that taxes will have to rise to pay for social care, but we are also clear that this increase in national insurance contributions is not the way to raise the money fairly. When it comes to funding the NHS, social care and all our public services, we are clear that those with the broadest shoulders should be asked to contribute more.

This five-page Bill contains nothing at all about a plan to fix social care; it does not even mention a plan. Put simply, there is no guarantee that a plan for social care will be in place even when the levy comes into force.