Policing and Crime Bill

Debate between Jacob Rees-Mogg and Bill Wiggin
Ping Pong: House of Commons
Tuesday 10th January 2017

(8 years, 5 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Bill Wiggin Portrait Bill Wiggin
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I will not delay the House for long. I want to heap praise on the Secretary of State for not giving in to the pressure of the media moguls, and, although we are putting a consultation out, we are determined that no grass shall grow. I want her to be very clear that we truly appreciate what she has done.

Colleagues who are unhappy about amendment 24 ought to pay more attention to the brilliance of my right hon. Friend the Member for West Dorset (Sir Oliver Letwin), who has put together a fantastic plan for dealing with this thorny issue. If they gave it their full attention, they would, like me, want to see section 40 implemented.

The Press Recognition Panel is completely independent, and given amendment 24 and the concerns being shown by their lordships—

Jacob Rees-Mogg Portrait Mr Rees-Mogg
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Will my hon. Friend give way?

Bill Wiggin Portrait Bill Wiggin
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I will be delighted to give way to my hon. Friend.

Jacob Rees-Mogg Portrait Mr Rees-Mogg
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I am so sorry to disagree with my hon. Friend, but the Press Recognition Panel is not independent; it is the creation, under a royal charter, ultimately of the Crown and therefore of the state.

Bill Wiggin Portrait Bill Wiggin
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It is still independent because it does not choose who and what is the regulator; it determines only that the regulator is independent. It is perfectly acceptable. I know my hon. Friend is very keen to defend the press, but this whole instrument does exactly that.

My hon. Friend the Member for Aldershot (Sir Gerald Howarth) emphasised the point that the local press in particular would be very vulnerable if it was not regulated—[Interruption.] Yes, it would. The regulator will protect it from having to pay the costs. This is why colleagues should really study what my right hon. Friend the Member for West Dorset has put together. It is much, much better than they might originally have thought.