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Department: Home Office

Oral Answers to Questions

Jack Dromey Excerpts
Monday 27th June 2011

(12 years, 10 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Lord Herbert of South Downs Portrait Nick Herbert
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I have said that the package of measures that we announced recently would save another 2.5 million hours of officer time, equivalent to 1,200 police officer posts, and we will go further with, for instance, more efficiencies in the criminal justice system. We will take no lectures from the Opposition about bureaucracy. It was they who tied up the police in this red tape with their targets, directions, policing pledge and constant interference, and it has fallen on this Government to reduce that bureaucracy and ensure that police officers can be crime fighters, not form writers.

Jack Dromey Portrait Jack Dromey (Birmingham, Erdington) (Lab)
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6. What estimate she has made of the likely number of police officers in 2012.

Lord Herbert of South Downs Portrait The Minister for Policing and Criminal Justice (Nick Herbert)
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It is for the chief constable and the police authority in each force to determine the number of police officers who are deployed within the available resource.

Jack Dromey Portrait Jack Dromey
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Crime is once again rising in the west midlands as police numbers fall, with hundreds of Birmingham’s and Britain’s best police officers being forced to retire under regulation A19, some as young as 48 years of age. Does the Home Secretary accept any responsibility, including for the latest casualty of Government cuts, the head of the west midlands counter-terrorism unit?

Lord Herbert of South Downs Portrait Nick Herbert
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The detective chief superintendent to whom the hon. Gentleman referred has said:

“I have always fully appreciated the reasons why West Midlands Police is implementing A19”.

That was a procedure that the last Labour Government chose to retain. Police officers are not being made redundant under this procedure, they are retiring with a full pension having completed 30 years of service. It is for chief constables to take the decisions about how best to deploy their resources, and unlike the hon. Gentleman I will not second-guess the chief constable on that.