Debates between Graham Stringer and Judith Cummins during the 2019-2024 Parliament

Energy-intensive Industries

Debate between Graham Stringer and Judith Cummins
Wednesday 6th July 2022

(2 years, 5 months ago)

Westminster Hall
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Judith Cummins Portrait Judith Cummins
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I am happy to take up some of the Minister’s time. Shall I repeat the eight questions that I asked in my speech that he has not—[Interruption.]

Graham Stringer Portrait Graham Stringer (in the Chair)
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Order. Interventions should be brief and to the point. It is not a dialogue.

Judith Cummins Portrait Judith Cummins
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I am happy to send the Minister a copy of the eight questions I asked him in my speech. He is yet to address a single one of them.

Lee Rowley Portrait Lee Rowley
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The challenge with this debate is that we all accept there is a problem, and we all accept that there is a wider context of global issues—some of which are beyond our control—but ultimately, the hon. Lady needs to propose as well as oppose. If she has a proposition, I would be very happy to hear it, as would the Government, but I did not hear a proposition in the 20 minutes that she spoke for.

“Do more” needs to be followed by another sentence that says precisely what to do, because when you talk to energy-intensive industries—I am not suggesting that the hon. Lady does not—and have detailed dialogue with them, you realise that there is a significant amount of nuance underlying this discussion. As my hon. Friend the Member for Stoke-on-Trent South has outlined, you have some energy-intensive industries that are very heavily based on gas. You have other energy-intensive industries that are very heavily based on electricity, as my hon. Friend the Member for Central Suffolk and North Ipswich (Dr Poulter) has indicated. Other businesses that are not energy-intensive industries are also reliant on some unusual ways of procuring and using energy, and if we do not recognise that nuance in any solutions that we propose, ultimately—