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(13 years, 7 months ago)
Commons Chamber Mr David Crausby (Bolton North East) (Lab)
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Mr David Crausby (Bolton North East) (Lab) 
        
    
        
    
        2. What his most recent estimate is of the cost of NHS reorganisation.
 Gavin Shuker (Luton South) (Lab/Co-op)
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Gavin Shuker (Luton South) (Lab/Co-op) 
        
    
        
    
        7. What his most recent estimate is of the cost of NHS reorganisation.
 The Minister of State, Department of Health (Mr Simon Burns)
    
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            The Minister of State, Department of Health (Mr Simon Burns) 
        
    
        
    
        The cost of the NHS modernisation is estimated to be between £1.2 billion and £1.3 billion. It will save £4.5 billion over the rest of this Parliament and £1.5 billion a year to 2020. We will reinvest every penny saved in the NHS in front-line services.
 Mr Burns
    
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Mr Burns 
        
    
        
    
        No, I do not believe it is. The administration figure that has been announced for CCGs throughout the country is £25 a patient, but if a CCG is more effective and efficient in providing administration and bureaucracy and makes savings, those savings can be transferred and reinvested in funding the care of their patients. That is an incentive for them to be streamlined and to ensure that that happens.
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            Gavin Shuker 
        
    
        
    
        The Minister speaks of reinvesting every single penny in the NHS budget. How does that fit with the £500 million raid on the NHS budget spoken of this week?
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            Mr Burns 
        
    
        
    
        If I could explain this to the hon. Gentleman, the £500 million that he is talking about was part of the savings made through renegotiating the IT contract. It is a perfectly normal procedure, because as the right hon. Member for Leigh (Andy Burnham) will know, the average figure for previous years was £850 million, and one year when he was a Minister at the Department of Health, it was £2.3 billion.