Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill

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Report stage
Tuesday 13th April 2021 Lords Chamber

Amendment 10 not moved.

[The Deputy Speaker (The Earl of Kinnoull) (Non-Afl)]

We now come to the group consisting of Amendment 11. Anyone wishing to press this amendment to a Division must make that clear in the debate.

Clause 12: Duty to consider derogation from Convention

Amendment 11

Moved by

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[The Deputy Speaker (The Earl of Kinnoull) (Non-Afl)]

We now come to the group consisting of Amendment 14. Anyone wishing to press this amendment to a Division must make this clear in the debate.

Amendment 14

Moved by

Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill

Earl of Kinnoull Excerpts

Consideration of Commons amendments
Monday 26th April 2021 Lords Chamber

[Baroness Goldie (Con)]

I thank the noble Lord, Lord Thomas of Gresford, for his Motion B1. He referred to my remarks at Second Reading relating to trying to address protracted and repeated investigations, and I stand by these remarks which, within the context of the Bill, seek to provide greater clarity and certainty to our Armed Forces personnel, but not by imposing artificial time limits on investigatory processes. That is implicit within the noble Lord’s amendment.

I accept that the noble Lord, Lord Thomas of Gresford, is well intentioned. He suggests that his amendment should be referred to Sir Richard Henriques, and the Government certainly have no objection to that. Indeed, Sir Richard Henriques may already have been closely following debates in this Chamber on the Bill. The noble Lord’s amendment may be a fruitful subject on which Sir Richard may wish to reflect. I cannot commit, of course, to saying that the report from Sir Richard will be concurrent with the Armed Forces Bill. Its Second Reading may reach this Chamber in June, and I understand that Sir Richard hopes to produce his report in the early summer. Again, while we will all be very interested in learning what Sir Richard has to say, the noble Lord, Lord Thomas of Gresford, will understand that I cannot commit the Government to whatever he may produce in his ultimate report. I certainly believe in having a wide field of material available for consideration of complex issues. If that reassures the noble Lord, Lord Thomas of Gresford, I hope he will be minded not to move Motion B1 to a division.

[The Deputy Speaker (The Earl of Kinnoull) (Non-Afl)]

I have received no requests to ask any short questions of elucidation, and accordingly call the noble Lord, Lord Thomas of Gresford.

[Lord Thomas of Gresford (LD) [V]]

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Goldie, for that reply. I note that she is prepared to refer this issue to Sir Richard Henriques. It would be sensible to see what he has to say. I am sure that he will take on board all the submissions that have been made, and will produce a way forward to ensure that delays are monitored and controlled, and not left to hang about for ever, as has happened in the past. On that basis, I beg leave to withdraw Motion B1.