Debates between Dawn Butler and Albert Owen during the 2017-2019 Parliament

Tue 19th Dec 2017
Finance (No. 2) Bill
Commons Chamber

Committee: 2nd sitting: House of Commons

Finance (No. 2) Bill

Debate between Dawn Butler and Albert Owen
Committee: 2nd sitting: House of Commons
Tuesday 19th December 2017

(6 years, 11 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Dawn Butler Portrait Dawn Butler
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I am sure that the hon. Members around the hon. Gentleman are trying to get him to stop talking, but Labour Members do not mind. It is actually nice to see you go through your journey of trying to put the pieces together and understand the problems we are talking about. You cannot justify any of your statements because you have no data.

Albert Owen Portrait The Temporary Chair (Albert Owen)
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Order. Too much “you”. The hon. Lady is an experienced Member of the House and she should set an example.

Dawn Butler Portrait Dawn Butler
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My apologies, Mr Owen. I am getting carried away in my enthusiasm to try to educate the hon. Member for Hitchin and Harpenden (Bim Afolami). The Government cannot justify anything you are saying, because you have no data to back it up. We are having to rely on data from voluntary groups and charities, which do an amazing job of crunching the numbers and looking at the intersectionality of the Government’s policies. But in order for you to make your statements, you need to have the data.

Albert Owen Portrait The Temporary Chair
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Order. That was a very long intervention with too many “yous”. Let us get used to the parliamentary language and have a proper debate.