Debates between David Simmonds and Andy Slaughter during the 2019-2024 Parliament

Thu 25th Jun 2020
Fire Safety Bill (Second sitting)
Public Bill Committees

Committee stage: 2nd sitting & Committee Debate: 2nd sitting: House of Commons

Fire Safety Bill (Second sitting)

Debate between David Simmonds and Andy Slaughter
Committee stage & Committee Debate: 2nd sitting: House of Commons
Thursday 25th June 2020

(4 years, 5 months ago)

Public Bill Committees
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David Simmonds Portrait David Simmonds
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I have similar feelings about new clause 6 as I had about amendment 1. There is a risk that by seeking to be precise, we may create additional gaps in the legislation. Looking at the list, it would be clear to anybody with experience of the issue in a wider context that many other issues would come into consideration in such circumstances.

For example, the London Borough of Hillingdon had to go to court on 16 occasions last year to gain access to tenants’ properties to undertake essential safety-critical work on gas installations. If we were to define the duties that we are placing on the responsible individuals, the list would be extremely long. I have heard the Minister talk on the issue and I know that, with his local government experience, he is well aware of the context.

The properties to which the legislation will apply are hugely diverse, as are the risks that they offer. I therefore strongly believe that the new clause is another example where we are better off having a broader-brush piece of legislation that provides the opportunity to catch every set of circumstances flexibly, rather than being unnecessarily specific and risking missing out things that might turn out to be safety-critical.

Andy Slaughter Portrait Andy Slaughter
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Thank you, Sir Gary. I apologise for referring to you as Mr Streeter throughout.