Debates between David Simmonds and Andy McDonald during the 2019-2024 Parliament

Tue 21st Mar 2023
Mon 2nd Mar 2020
High Speed Rail (West Midlands - Crewe) Bill: Revival
Commons Chamber

Carry-over motionmotion to revive Bill & Carry-over motion & Bill reintroduced & Bill reintroduced: House of Commons & Bill reintroduced & Bill reintroduced: House of Commons & motion to revive Bill: House of Commons

Lifelong Learning (Higher Education Fee Limits) Bill (First sitting)

Debate between David Simmonds and Andy McDonald
David Simmonds Portrait David Simmonds (Ruislip, Northwood and Pinner) (Con)
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I am an honorary fellow of Birkbeck, University of London.

Andy McDonald Portrait Andy McDonald (Middlesbrough) (Lab)
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I am an honorary governor of Middlesbrough College.

High Speed Rail (West Midlands - Crewe) Bill: Revival

Debate between David Simmonds and Andy McDonald
Carry-over motion & Bill reintroduced & Bill reintroduced: House of Commons & motion to revive Bill: House of Commons
Monday 2nd March 2020

(4 years, 9 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Andy McDonald Portrait Andy McDonald
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I take that admonishment, Madam Deputy Speaker, and simply satisfy the hon. Gentleman by saying that the Labour party entered the last general election with a fully costed regional plan that would have served his area adequately.

The dividends in reduced emissions are immense, and I encourage the Government to articulate that argument better at every opportunity. We are concerned that the links to Manchester and Leeds are now under review and could even be downgraded. The Government have repeatedly broken their promises of investment in the north, with the region set to receive just a fraction of the investment to be made in London, and a northern powerhouse simply has to be much more than a slogan.

HS2 must be developed with more sensitivity to local communities and much more sensitivity to the environmental impact, particularly on modern and ancient woodlands across the country.

David Simmonds Portrait David Simmonds (Ruislip, Northwood and Pinner) (Con)
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Will the hon. Gentleman give way on that point?

Andy McDonald Portrait Andy McDonald
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I will give way, save that I may incur your wrath, Madam Deputy Speaker.

David Simmonds Portrait David Simmonds
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I have a very specific point on this issue. One of the lessons from my constituency about the first phase of HS2 is that commitments given to this House on earlier phases have simply not been honoured by HS2 Ltd. I would encourage us, and ask the Minister, to consider how we can hold it robustly to account on this second phase to ensure that, when commitments and promises are made to this House about how local communities and individual families will be treated and supported sensitively and they are not honoured, there must be consequences.

Andy McDonald Portrait Andy McDonald
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I think the hon. Gentleman makes a very valid point. The issues of governance and communication have to be improved, and I think everybody in the House would agree with that.

On modern and ancient woodlands, I just make the point that the commitment to the speed of this project may have to be reviewed. I think the commitment to going in straight lines at 250 mph has to be taken into consideration. If we look at the TGV in France, the average speed of that high-speed link is 187 mph, and that does not impact on its efficiency.

If the project is to have full public support, the fares on HS2 must be affordable and comparable with the rest of the fare system on the rail network. It has previously been intimated that for HS2 to gain the confidence of the public, it cannot be a premium service. If HS2 is successfully to replace so many long-distance journeys, it has to be an integral part of an affordable and accessible railway.

The Transport Secretary should ensure that the procurement of HS2’s rolling stock is conducted in a way that makes sure the trains will be manufactured in the UK and will benefit the UK supply chain. Could the Minister inform the House of what steps the Secretary of State is going to take to ensure that the delivery of HS2 is closely co-ordinated with Network Rail’s ongoing work programme and the development of Northern Powerhouse Rail?

Given the amount of public money that is to be spent on delivering HS2, it is essential that the Government ensure that HS2 services are run under public ownership, so that British taxpayers can see a return on their investment in supporting the UK economy, rather than in enriching private companies or foreign state-owned companies. Her Majesty’s Opposition are indeed supportive, and we look forward to the progress of the project.