Enterprise and Regulatory Reform Bill
Debate between David Mowat and Neil Carmichael(12 years, 1 month ago)
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Private Finance Initiative
Debate between David Mowat and Neil Carmichael(13 years, 5 months ago)
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Neil Carmichael
I thank my hon. Friend for that. I do not like any mistakes; I do not like small ones, but I especially dislike big ones. We need a system that allows fewer of both, but particularly large ones.
David Mowat
It is about accountability and procurement. Much of what has been said this afternoon is about procurement failures rather than the failure of the PFI technique. I do not agree that people cannot be held to account for big procurement errors. Many organisations succeed in holding others to account, but the Government do not. I would be interested to know whether people in any of the procuring organisations involved in these awful contracts have been held to account—how many jobs have been lost and how many promotions have been missed—but my guess is not many on either count.
Neil Carmichael
I think that you are absolutely right if you agree with me that we need more accountability in the procurement and specification systems.