Debates between Christine Jardine and Marion Fellows during the 2017-2019 Parliament

Claim of Right for Scotland

Debate between Christine Jardine and Marion Fellows
Wednesday 4th July 2018

(5 years, 10 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Christine Jardine Portrait Christine Jardine
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Will the hon. Lady give way?

Marion Fellows Portrait Marion Fellows
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No, because I have only three minutes left.

Scotland is not a country that is quick to take to the streets, but what the recent independence demonstrations have shown, as have the past demonstrations against Westminster’s poll tax and Thatcher’s decimation of Scottish industry, is that once Scotland has made up its mind, it will continue to pursue its interests in the face of adversity. Anyone who opposes Scotland’s sovereign right is exposing a truth widely held in Scotland, and indeed by the Secretary of State for Scotland, that we are not an equal partner in the UK and that we must ask permission to make our own decisions.

Marion Fellows Portrait Marion Fellows
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I only have three minutes left, so I cannot give way.

Those people are exposing the fact that a democratically elected Parliament’s decision to hold a referendum—the most direct form of democracy imaginable—must be rubber-stamped by Westminster. Anyone who recognises and celebrates the no vote of 2014 but then seeks to undermine Scotland’s sovereignty by discrediting any future vote exposes a crucial contradiction in their argument and does not understand the pride that the Scottish people take in their Parliament.

Christine Jardine Portrait Christine Jardine
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Will the hon. Lady give way?

Marion Fellows Portrait Marion Fellows
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No, I want to finish my speech.

Christine Jardine Portrait Christine Jardine
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Will the hon. Lady give way?

Marion Fellows Portrait Marion Fellows
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No, I am going to continue.

While the UK Government seek to evaporate the Sewel convention and rely on outdated principles of Westminster sovereignty, the people of Scotland will be the ones who decide where their legitimate government and interests lie. No politician, party or Parliament can; this is about the Scottish people. Whatever the outcome of this debate, it will always be the case that Scotland’s sovereignty does not need to be recognised by parties that Scotland rejects or by Westminster; its sovereignty needs to be recognised only by the people of Scotland themselves.

I am sorry that the amendment that was tabled has not been selected, but as the claim of right exists, the only thing that is decisive is the will of the Scottish people as expressed through elections and referendums. That will is fluid and changing. We only need to look at the opinion polls—they have been taken all the way through from 2014—since the Brexit vote. The minority Conservative Government are well aware of those polls. It is undemocratic to bind Scotland or any other country to the decisions of the past, to protect the interests of the Tory party.