Civil Liability Bill [Lords] Debate

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Department: Ministry of Justice

Civil Liability Bill [Lords]

Chris Stephens Excerpts
3rd reading: House of Commons & Report stage: House of Commons
Tuesday 23rd October 2018

(6 years, 1 month ago)

Commons Chamber
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Chris Philp Portrait Chris Philp
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The hon. Member for Glasgow South West (Chris Stephens) has tried several times to intervene, so I must give him an opportunity to make his point.

Chris Stephens Portrait Chris Stephens (Glasgow South West) (SNP)
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I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman, because he has been generous. May I put a different scenario to him, because this aspect of what he is saying is confusing me? If, in the course of his employment, a resident of Glasgow South West were injured in Croydon South, why would he be treated less favourably because the injury was sustained in the hon. Gentleman’s constituency than he would be in the constituency of Glasgow South West? In Scotland personal injury claims are exempt from the small claims limit, and civil legal aid is available to claimants.

Chris Philp Portrait Chris Philp
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I infer from the hon. Gentleman’s question that these matters are devolved in Scotland. Is that the case?

Chris Stephens Portrait Chris Stephens
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It is a different system.

Chris Philp Portrait Chris Philp
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The two cases are treated differently because there is an entirely different legal system in Scotland, and there is a devolved Government there. It is perfectly within the competence of that devolved Government to take a different view. Clearly the Government in Scotland, and the Scottish Parliament, have taken a different view, as they are entitled to do so, but I, as an English MP—as a London MP—take my own view, and it is the one that I have been expressing here today.

Chris Stephens Portrait Chris Stephens
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I thank the hon. Gentleman for that, but does he realise that the Bill affects 407,000 people—Scottish residents who are employed in England and Wales?

Chris Philp Portrait Chris Philp
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It may well affect residents of Scotland. Of course, it also affects residents of France, Germany, the United States and Kazakhstan who may choose to visit my constituency. I strongly encourage all of them to do that, by the way. If, heaven forbid, they were to suffer an injury in Croydon South, they would be equivalently affected. The mere fact that there are different rules in different jurisdictions is no reason not to change the rules in this one. Which jurisdiction is the hon. Gentleman suggesting that we align ourselves with? Scotland? France?

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Chris Stephens Portrait Chris Stephens
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Scotland!

Chris Philp Portrait Chris Philp
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While I admire the hon. Gentleman’s patriotism in inviting us to follow the Scottish example, I am afraid that this Parliament will form its own view on what is appropriate, and I do not think that he can be in any doubt about what I think the right view is on the question before us today.