All 2 Debates between Catherine McKinnell and Neil Carmichael

Grammar and Faith Schools

Debate between Catherine McKinnell and Neil Carmichael
Tuesday 8th November 2016

(8 years, 1 month ago)

Commons Chamber
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Neil Carmichael Portrait Neil Carmichael
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I am going to take just one more intervention, because I think you, Madam Deputy Speaker, are going to give me a telling-off like the one you really gave the hon. Member for Wigan.

Catherine McKinnell Portrait Catherine McKinnell
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I thank the Chairman of the Select Committee for giving way—he is being very generous. Does he agree that quoting statistics about children who have been selected to go to a selective school to have a selective education is, by definition, not really a measure of the best solution for providing the best education for all children in this country?

Neil Carmichael Portrait Neil Carmichael
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Yes, I would agree with that. The hon. Lady, who is also a member of my Select Committee—I will have to pay tribute to the whole lot in a minute—makes a very astute point. The fact is that if pupils are selected on the basis of academic testing to go to a school and then do very well, people really should not be surprised; they should actually be disappointed if one or two fail the grade, let alone get the sort of figures the Minister suggested they did.

Rural Schools

Debate between Catherine McKinnell and Neil Carmichael
Wednesday 8th February 2012

(12 years, 10 months ago)

Westminster Hall
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Catherine McKinnell Portrait Catherine McKinnell
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No, but I agree that the hon. Gentleman has made a powerful case for the concerns in the area, regarding the decline that he feels he has witnessed in his area. I feel that all hon. Members today have made a powerful case for state intervention, particularly in such areas, and for serious consideration to be given to how the state can intervene in the market to try to ensure that rural areas do not suffer disproportionately, particularly in the cuts environment that we are facing at the moment. I would be interested to hear the Minister’s response to the concerns that have been raised today.

Neil Carmichael Portrait Neil Carmichael
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I do not think I was making a case for state intervention. I was making a case for empowering our local communities to take charge of their own schools and to take hold of the opportunities given by the Academies Act 2010, autonomous schools and active, vibrant communities.

Catherine McKinnell Portrait Catherine McKinnell
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I thank the hon. Gentleman for his clarification. The overall impression that I got from hon. Members’ contributions today is that there clearly is a powerful case for concern about a purely market-led approach to education and the impact that that can have on rural communities.