Debates between Baroness Finlay of Llandaff and Lord O'Shaughnessy during the 2015-2017 Parliament

Mon 23rd Jan 2017
Health Service Medical Supplies (Costs) Bill
Grand Committee

Committee: 1st sitting (Hansard): House of Lords

Sustainability and Transformation Plans

Debate between Baroness Finlay of Llandaff and Lord O'Shaughnessy
Thursday 26th January 2017

(7 years, 3 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord O'Shaughnessy Portrait Lord O'Shaughnessy
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On public scrutiny, all the sustainability and transformation plans have had public involvement. They were published and consulted on. I do not recognise the picture that the noble Baroness paints in relation to cancer drugs. This Government created the cancer drugs fund in order specifically to fund innovative cancer drugs and bring them to market more quickly. She will know that decisions on availability and funding of drugs are properly taken by NICE on a clinical basis.

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff Portrait Baroness Finlay of Llandaff (CB)
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In July last year, the Government’s response to the national end-of-life choice offer was that end-of-life care would be part of all transformation programmes, yet 20 of the plans make fleeting or no reference whatever to end-of-life care and only six have clearly stated plans. That is despite approximately a quarter of a million patients dying each year in hospital. While some cases are acute, a large number of patients have a period where they need their care improved. What action are the Government taking?

Lord O'Shaughnessy Portrait Lord O'Shaughnessy
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I thank the noble Baroness for making that point. The purpose of NHS England’s review of the STPs is to make sure that they account for all the priorities set out in the Five Year Forward View. Clearly, that involves end-of-life care, and NHS England will work hard to make sure that it is properly reflected.

Health Service Medical Supplies (Costs) Bill

Debate between Baroness Finlay of Llandaff and Lord O'Shaughnessy
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff Portrait Baroness Finlay of Llandaff
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Let me thank the Minister for that comprehensive reply and for his openness in discussing things with us all. He talks about having discussions with the industry. I hope that he is aware that there is a move by the industry to consolidate into three major hubs, or potentially four. The fourth would be the Oxford-Cambridge-London axis, the other three being those in Boston, in California and in Basle in Switzerland. We are at a critical time, because a lot of change is going on—hence the motivation for so many of us to support the amendment, as we are aware that things are potentially fragile.

Lord O'Shaughnessy Portrait Lord O'Shaughnessy
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I thank the noble Baroness for that point, with which I completely concur. This is obviously a big moment in time, for several reasons. Our current price regulation systems for pharmaceuticals run until the end of 2018 and, in 2019, we will leave the European Union. These things are bundled together and co-dependent; making the right decisions on each of the factors will have a knock-on effect on the rest. I very much understand the point. As I said, my job has the tension of both responsibilities, including health, and the trick is to square the circle.