Baroness Chapman of Darlington
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Mr Duncan Smith
I always do my level best to agree with my hon. Friend. He talks common sense whenever he rises to his feet and today is no different.
Jenny Chapman (Darlington) (Lab)
How confident is the Secretary of State that the system will be able to deal with people who live in such unusual circumstances as being in a couple or having children?
Mr Duncan Smith
The system will roll out for all the complicated groups right the way through until we have 6.5 million on it. There were some reports in today’s papers that were wrong. The pathfinder rolled out to singles to begin with. Next it goes on to couples, then to couples with children, then we bring in the more complicated groups and then we bring in the tax credit group. I simply say to the hon. Lady that she needs to understand the difference between an approach that rolls something out at every stage and learns from it, and the approach that Labour took on tax credits, which was to rush them in and see them fail.