House of Lords: Reform Debate

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Baroness Boothroyd

Main Page: Baroness Boothroyd (Crossbench - Life peer)
Tuesday 21st June 2011

(12 years, 11 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Thomas of Gresford Portrait Lord Thomas of Gresford
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Of course. She is a highly popular Member of this House and a highly respected person. Yet it is easy and populist to attack politicians. It is almost as easy as attacking lawyers. If Cross-Benchers want to serve the people, they can knock on doors with the rest of us. As the noble Lord, Lord Cormack, has said, the noble Baroness, Lady Boothroyd, did so with success—far more success than I had in the past.

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I fought six elections before being elected and 14 after being elected.

Lord Thomas of Gresford Portrait Lord Thomas of Gresford
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That is fantastic. I fought eight elections and lost the lot.

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Serves you jolly well right.

Lord Thomas of Gresford Portrait Lord Thomas of Gresford
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My Lords, I was gaining expertise in another field at the time. An expertise is a fine thing but everyone on the Cross Benches who has retired from their field of endeavour will recognise that expertise has a limited shelf life and is overtaken by developments and changes. Contemporary expertise should be delivered to Parliament, as it is in congressional committees in the United States, and severely tried and tested under questioning. That is why I support a 100 per cent elected second Chamber of a limited number of senators. I used to walk through the Lobbies with Lord Williams of Mostyn, he and I having similar backgrounds, in support of a 100 per cent elected second Chamber. I agree that Members should serve for one term of 15 years, which would give them independence, but I would include in the Bill a right of recall, which would enable an electorate to sack a Member and hold him accountable for the trust that the public had put in him. I look forward to the findings of the committee next year.

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That, notwithstanding the Government’s proposals for the House of Lords set out in Cm 8077, which amount to the abolition of the House of Lords, this House calls on Her Majesty’s Government to bring forward proposals for incremental urgent reforms that would improve the functioning of the existing House of Lords.

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Not moved.

House adjourned at 9.38 pm.