Financial Services and Markets Bill [HL] Debate
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(1 month, 3 weeks ago)
Lords ChamberMy Lords, I will speak briefly to Amendment 87, and I support the amendment in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Altmann, on superfunds. These are two issues that need attention. My amendment is about one thing: tax certainty for insurance-linked securities. It would not weaken anti-avoidance rules and does not seek any advantage that Parliament never intended; it simply asks for clarity in a regime that Parliament created to attract ILS business to the UK.
The problem is commercial. Rival jurisdictions give clear outcomes, but the UK does not. HMRC’s guidance leaves too much ambiguity and advisers reach conflicting conclusions on identical transactions, so, in a market where speed and predictability drive choice of domicile, capital goes elsewhere. The consequence is stark: London is the world’s largest commercial reinsurance centre, yet we have only 2% of global ILS activity. The catastrophe bond market is over $60 billion and the wider ILS market exceeds $140 billion. We could have a big chunk of that, but we are letting this substantial business, and indeed the tax revenue that would come from it, pass London by.
The new PRA reforms in the Bill are welcome, and London Bridge 2 has brought in new capital, but even that structure repeatedly runs into HMRC uncertainty. If the Government want the market then the guidance has to be clearer. It is only the Government who can fix this if they want the business in the UK. I beg to move.
My Lords, I support Amendment 87 in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Bowles. I will speak to my Amendment 92, and I am grateful to her for adding her name to it. Amendment 92 would insert a provision in the Bill to allow life insurers to set up defined benefit pension superfunds outside of their solvency UK ring-fences, enabling them to participate in the superfund market and potentially even help the UK build its own version of Canada’s much-vaunted Maple Eight. UK insurers—with suitable ring-fencing, as set out in the amendment, to ensure separation from their insurance business—are ideally placed to run large pools of pension investments, with existing in-house expertise in areas such as investment, actuarial and legal. At present, insurance buyout is seen as the gold standard for defined benefit pension scheme endgame strategies.
Superfunds could provide a means to add billions of pounds-worth of productive capital into the UK economy and allow pension members to enjoy better benefits, rather than superfunds remaining niche players, if the current system is not changed. Insurers could bring large amounts of capital pooled into the pension scheme area and collect pension assets so that scheme members would have better upside opportunities and robust alternatives to the finality of annuity buyouts, which are generally considered 100% safe but could well not be. Buyout pushes assets into low-return, unproductive opportunities and denies members greater returns and better pensions, which could come from superfunds.
In particular, there are concerns about systemic risk with annuity buyouts. I wondered whether the Minister might agree to meet me and other interested parties to discuss the risks involved in the Government’s current perception that annuity buyout is the gold standard, 100% safe endgame strategy. I hope that he will recognise that the Financial Services Compensation Scheme may not be as secure as expected.
Lord Pitt-Watson (Lab)
My Lords, I thank the noble Baronesses, Lady Bowles and Lady Altmann, for their amendments. I will take each in turn, starting with Amendment 87.
As was noted by my predecessor, the Government recognise the role which the bespoke tax regime for transformer vehicles plays in ensuring that the UK is competitive. We also recognise, as does this amendment, the importance of robust anti-avoidance measures and clear guidance in ensuring that the regime functions effectively, provides certainty to business and safeguards the integrity of the tax system.
It is right that we preserve HMRC’s ability to effectively pursue instances where vehicles are established for the purposes of avoiding tax, and it is important that we preserve that ability and avoid creating risks for the Exchequer. However, I recognise the strength of feeling in industry over this issue. I therefore offer the Baroness a meeting with HMRC and Treasury officials to discuss it in more depth. I remain of the view that this legislation is not the appropriate place to make provision for the tax regime governing transformer vehicles—the Risk Transformation (Tax) Regulations 2017 being the specific legislation designed to govern this.
On Amendment 92, the Government recognise the important role that defined benefit pension scheme consolidation can play in improving outcomes for pension scheme members and providing additional options for schemes. The amendment seeks to place in legislation an explicit permission for PRA-authorised insurers to establish, own or operate DB superfunds and would introduce statutory requirements governing the separation of superfund and insurance activities. However, insurers are already able to establish and operate superfunds under the existing regulatory framework. The amendment therefore does not create a new route into the market. Rather, its primary effect is to place requirements relating to ring-fencing, capital treatment and the separation of activities into primary legislation. The Government’s view is that matters relating to prudential regulation, capital treatment and the supervision of regulated firms are more appropriately addressed by the relevant regulators rather than through detailed provisions in primary legislation. For those reasons, while I appreciate the intention behind the amendment, the Government do not consider it necessary.
I therefore ask the noble Baronesses to withdraw or not move their respective amendments.
Would the noble Lord be willing to meet to go through some of these issues?
Lord Pitt-Watson (Lab)
If I would be the relevant person to talk to on this matter, I would be happy to meet. If not, perhaps I can direct the noble Baroness to appropriate officials.