Wednesday 25th October 2017

(7 years, 1 month ago)

Westminster Hall
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Matthew Offord Portrait Dr Offord
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Perhaps I should investigate whether there is something on WikiLeaks, because two Members now have intruded upon issues I wished to attend to as part of my speech. I certainly agree with my right hon. Friend. A peace process should involve both parties; neither should be absent, and talks should not be sought when one party is absent.

[Sir Roger Gale in the Chair]

Andrew Percy Portrait Andrew Percy (Brigg and Goole) (Con)
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I congratulate my hon. Friend on securing the debate. Is it not also true that we will not get to a peaceful situation if people attend events, for example, where individuals hold signs or sing, “From Jordan to the sea, Palestine will be free”? Must we not remember the loss of citizenship and the pogroms that happened to the Jewish people in the Arab world between 1948 and 1972 and mark that during this centenary year too?

Matthew Offord Portrait Dr Offord
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I can only agree with that sentiment. Once again, I will come on to that in my speech.

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Joanna Cherry Portrait Joanna Cherry
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Of course not. My point was that hearing stories of the abuse of human rights in Europe reminded me that we must be alive to the abuse of human rights anywhere in the world.

Andrew Percy Portrait Andrew Percy
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Will the hon. and learned Lady give way?

Joanna Cherry Portrait Joanna Cherry
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I will in a moment, but I want to continue.

When I was on the west bank, I observed two parallel systems of law in the military courts, where human rights and basic legal process are not observed, and that is of particular interest to me as a lawyer.

Andrew Percy Portrait Andrew Percy
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Joanna Cherry Portrait Joanna Cherry
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I also saw that the proliferation of settlements in the west bank is sadly making a two-state solution almost impossible. I think all of us in this room agree that a two-state solution is the answer. I can certainly say that is the policy of the Scottish National party, as it is of the Labour party.

Andrew Percy Portrait Andrew Percy
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Joanna Cherry Portrait Joanna Cherry
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My constituents have asked me to say—I am conscious that other people wish to speak—that the true legacy of Balfour is 5 million Palestinians living in refugee camps or scattered across the globe; a 50-year occupation of East Jerusalem, Gaza and the west bank; and a 10-year illegal and inhumane blockade of the Gaza Strip. The point of my contribution this afternoon is to say that two wrongs do not make a right, and that the second part of the Balfour Declaration has not been fulfilled.

Andrew Percy Portrait Andrew Percy
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Just to be clear, when the hon. and learned Lady talks about treatment of different groups under Israeli law, she is not suggesting for a moment, is she, that Israeli Arabs are in any way different from Israeli Jews or Christians before the courts and law of Israel?

Joanna Cherry Portrait Joanna Cherry
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No; as I said, I was talking about the treatment of Palestinians living in the west bank in the military courts, which I observed with my own eyes, and which has been widely reported on by lawyers from across the globe.