Debates between Andrew Gwynne and Tom Pursglove during the 2019-2024 Parliament

Independent Chief Inspector of Borders and Immigration

Debate between Andrew Gwynne and Tom Pursglove
Monday 4th March 2024

(8 months, 3 weeks ago)

Commons Chamber
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Tom Pursglove Portrait Tom Pursglove
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I am afraid that what is right is that the hon. Lady consistently votes against the strategy to end the use of hotels, as do her colleagues on the Opposition Front Bench and Back Benches. The way to address the issue of hotels is: to diversify the accommodation offer; to ensure that local authority areas engage properly with dispersed accommodation—I encourage all Members of this House to take an interest in the performance of their local authority—and to bring into being larger sites, such as those that we have brought forward. Crucially, we have to reduce the flow of people coming across the channel and arriving in our country illegally. Every time Opposition Members have the chance to do something about the flow of people arriving, which undoubtedly leads to the pressures that she touches on, they refuse to do so. That is where the scandal really lies.

Andrew Gwynne Portrait Andrew Gwynne (Denton and Reddish) (Lab)
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Is the Government’s failure to tackle the asylum backlog, the Minister’s inability to grapple with the asylum hotel issue, or the staggering cost of the Rwanda deal, at £2 million per person taken out of this country, the reason why the Minister has broken the Home Office budget, and will come to Parliament cap in hand next week, asking for an extra £5.5 billion of funding for the Home Office?

Tom Pursglove Portrait Tom Pursglove
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I am afraid that the hon. Member is yet another Opposition Member with no credible alternative to speak of—just lots of complaints about the work that the Government are doing. We are making progress. As I have said, last year, the number of people who arrived via the channel was down by a third compared to the year before. The population accommodated in hotels is going down, and the number of hotels open is reducing.

Andrew Gwynne Portrait Andrew Gwynne
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Five billion pounds.

Tom Pursglove Portrait Tom Pursglove
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The Government are making progress. We are living up to the commitments—

Andrew Gwynne Portrait Andrew Gwynne
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Five billion pounds.

Tom Pursglove Portrait Tom Pursglove
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The hon. Member can keep parroting figures and chuntering from the Back Benches, but I would rather he came forward with a credible alternative plan. Perhaps then we could have a conversation.

Delivering Justice for Victims

Debate between Andrew Gwynne and Tom Pursglove
Thursday 9th December 2021

(2 years, 11 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Tom Pursglove Portrait Tom Pursglove
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I am fond of my right hon. and learned Friend, and I thoroughly enjoyed working with him. He made a significant contribution during his time as Lord Chancellor, and it undoubtedly shifted the dial considerably on many areas of policy in relation to the criminal justice system. He was consistently passionate about victims and wanting to see genuine improvement for them. It is fair to say that his hand is most definitely on this work, and I would never want to disregard the very good work that has been done previously. I am grateful to him for everything he has done in this regard, and I look forward to his participation in the consultation. I share in his remarks about Emily Hunt, and it is our intention to have prelegislative scrutiny to allow Members on both sides of the House to scrutinise and help shape the plans.

Andrew Gwynne Portrait Andrew Gwynne (Denton and Reddish) (Lab)
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As the Minister knows, the Home Affairs Committee has also taken a great deal of interest in these matters. I welcome his statement on the intention of Ministers to make these changes to the criminal justice system to benefit victims. I am especially pleased that he mentioned the scorecards that will help spread best practice to areas that are not doing as well as they could and are basically letting down victims. Why does there not seem to be a specific strategy to tackle gender-based violence? That does not seem to be in this package as clearly or as up front as it should be. When will we get something on that?

Tom Pursglove Portrait Tom Pursglove
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I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for the constructive tone of his question. The tackling violence against women and girls strategy, which was published in July, is fundamental to the work in this area. Separate from this session, I am sure Ministers would be happy to talk to him so that he can further understand our work in this inevitably important area.