Draft Wales Bill (Morning sitting) Debate

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Department: Wales Office

Draft Wales Bill (Morning sitting)

Alun Cairns Excerpts
Wednesday 3rd February 2016

(8 years, 9 months ago)

General Committees
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Nia Griffith Portrait Nia Griffith
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The term “distinct” has been used to suggest that we would not need to have separate courts, that lawyers could practise on both sides of the border—we would have, if you like, a separate book, separate legislation, but not a separate court system. As I just said, that is one solution that might be suggested; it is not the only solution. If the Secretary of State can show us what other plans he might have, perhaps he can bring forward something different, but it clearly needs to be looked at. We understand the problem; we have not yet had a solution from the Secretary of State.

Alun Cairns Portrait The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Wales (Alun Cairns)
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The hon. Lady has tried to define “distinct legal jurisdiction”, but the Presiding Officer in the Assembly, for example, has called for a high court of Wales. Does that fit the “distinct” model?

Nia Griffith Portrait Nia Griffith
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The “distinct” model does not have to have a separate high court: that is the whole point.

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Ian C. Lucas Portrait Ian C. Lucas
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I do not think that I can deal with the constitutional question in response to an intervention, but I welcome any consideration or detailed assessment of the constitution as a whole. I want to get away from the principle of trying to deal with such issues piecemeal across the United Kingdom, which is a massive mistake.

Alun Cairns Portrait Alun Cairns
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rose—

Ian C. Lucas Portrait Ian C. Lucas
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I am not going to give way to those on the Front Bench, because they have had far too many interventions.