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Tue 24th Mar 2026

Defence

Debate between Al Carns and Matt Western
Tuesday 24th March 2026

(2 weeks, 3 days ago)

Commons Chamber
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Al Carns Portrait Al Carns
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There are clear NATO defence spending targets. That is written down, and will be produced in due course.

Matt Western Portrait Matt Western
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My hon. Friend is making an excellent speech. The 1.5% is, of course, about security-related initiatives, and it is important that we get to those soon. As for the wider defence investment plan, I would just say a word of caution: we must get it absolutely right. I have been trying to work with colleagues on both sides of the House since the start of the Ajax project in 2016 to find a resolution to some of these problems. We must take great care and be very clear-eyed about the procurement strategy that we follow.

Al Carns Portrait Al Carns
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I completely agree. We have to get the defence investment plan right, and we have to ensure that it balances all the different problems that we face, whether they relate to air defence in the middle east and the lessons identified there or, indeed, the lessons identified in Ukraine.