Terminally Ill Adults (End of Life) Bill

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Committee stage
Friday 24th April 2026 Lords Chamber

[Baroness Prentis of Banbury (Con)]

My Lords, I regret that I was not here this winter during the discussions on the Bill. But watching it on television has been a key part of the rhythm of the weeks that I have spent at home. During my chemo-induced cognitive dysfunction, the plot of “Midsomer Murders” was often beyond me, and the steroid frenzy I felt meant that I often could not settle to a book. But during 13 bouts of chemo and an operation, I kept returning Friday after Friday to this debate. Noble Lords may ask themselves, why? It may be because, as a government lawyer, the constitution is in me like the writing in a stick of rock. But it is also, of course, that as your normal procedures and love of friends, work, food and drink are taken from you because you have to remain isolated, the issues of life and death come sharply into focus.

What I watched, from a unique perspective, with my telly newly installed in my bedroom—shockingly, some might say—was impressive. It was the calm, quiet scrutiny of legislation. Far from few voices were heard, as some have said. I frequently had to consult the booklet to see who was speaking. I saw the former heads of royal colleges explain why no royal college can support the Bill. I saw lawyers worried that coroners are not able to feel that there are sufficient safeguards in the Bill. I saw former NHS managers worried about the effects on the service and staff that they care for so deeply. I saw experts on devolution get into the details. I was impressed by the deep experience of the Bishops, often speaking from their time as parish priests, who, frankly, have held more hands of the dying than the rest of us put together.

As I watched from the coalface of trying not to die, I felt huge sympathy for the very ill people who think that this Bill might be the answer to their problems. Illness leaves you with few options and little control. The systems can seem unyielding and, as a result, uncaring. In my experience, that is worse than pain.

Of course, you are exhausted, miserable and sick. You look awful, you are often smelly, and some symptoms are, frankly, revolting. Of course, you worry very deeply about your family watching you go through all this and what it is doing to them. Even with my excellent care and good prognosis, I have definitely at times felt that death would be much easier. Whenever my treatment has not been as speedy as it might be because of capacity issues—I am currently waiting longer than I want to for radiotherapy, which is due to start the week after next—or when I have been waiting literally on the floor, having fainted in a less than perfectly clean NHS corridor, I have had a vision in my head of crisp white sheets and the certainty that would come from knowing that you were instantly going to die. For me, and I suspect for most vulnerable people, that vision passes and life becomes worth living and good again. But I do not think for one minute that we should deny that that vision is briefly an attractive one.

We owe the dying better than this Bill. We owe them the best death that we can manage and real effort and enthusiasm put into palliative care and all facilities, including temporary nursing where necessary, to help people die at home surrounded by their families. We need to really integrate physical and mental care and not just talk about it. We owe the dying love, care and respect. We hope that crisp white sheets and some control over treatment dates may become part of the normal system of palliative care and not just reserved for people who engineer some form of assisted dying. We owe the vulnerable legislative protection.

[Baroness Hayman (CB)]

My Lords, it is an absolute privilege to follow the very moving and focused speech of the noble and learned Baroness, Lady Prentis. Perhaps the one good thing about the last year that has been a real revelation, and something that I respect enormously, is the number of people who have shared their experiences of death, dying and illness and their views about the best way forward. No one can pretend that there is unanimity on this issue. We have to respect all those views and listen to them.

Twenty years ago, I was a member of the Select Committee on Joel Joffe’s assisted dying Bill. That experience, the visits that we made and the evidence that we heard, convinced me that it was possible to frame legislation that safeguarded against coercion and did not compromise but rather complemented palliative care. For me, as the noble Lord, Lord Markham, said, it made the argument for regulation.

So, I was surprised to hear the noble Baroness, Lady O’Loan, describe what could go so badly wrong in an unregulated system—Shipman, coercion and no one knowing what happens. I simply do not accept that a tightly regulated Bill with the sorts of safeguards that are in this Bill is not better than the wholly unregulated system we have at the moment.

On that Select Committee, the visit to Oregon in particular made me very aware of another issue: that having legislation for assisted dying would directly affect only a small number of people who took up the option. The percentage of people who investigated the option and got a prescription—as that system required—but never used it, and who instead found that they could cope with the situation in which they found themselves, was about 30% across jurisdictions. But the very existence of legislation, and a system that they knew they could access if things became intolerable in the end, gave huge reassurance to the hundreds of people who would die under assisted dying legislation. There are thousands who would feel more secure and be reassured by the fact that there was an option. I put myself absolutely in that category and I suspect that many others in the House would do so too.

I participated in the debates. The noble Lord, Lord Baker, is in his place. I went head to head with the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay, on all those debates as well. I participated in all of them. I have been disappointed before and I have seen Bills fail before, but nothing has made me feel, in the words of the noble and learned Lord, Lord Falconer, “despondent” in quite the way that the process we have gone through in the last year has done. So, it is important that we reflect in today’s proceedings, because they should be a reflection on what I consider to be a collective failure.

I think we have failed those people who came to us with experiences, either through families or their own experiences, of the inability of palliative care, however good, to meet what they actually need at the end of life. We have failed those repeated campaigners who knew that the legislation would be too late for them but did not want others to go through what they had. We have failed to respect the consistent weight of public opinion on this issue that we ought to have a different, regulated and safe system, and we have failed to respect the elected House’s request to us to do the job that was described so clearly by the noble Lord, Lord Lansley.

We have to reflect, because all those failures have damaged the reputation of this House and they have damaged what many of us have respected and felt to be very much part of the House’s DNA—self-regulation. We have not fulfilled our duty to use our procedures on a Bill that has been passed by the House of Commons to focus either on the issue of principle by a vote at Second or Third Reading, or on specific detail where we need to calibrate the strength of opinion in this House—to vote—and send our conclusions to the Commons for its response. Instead, we have had the prolonged and painful process described by the noble and learned Lord, Lord Falconer. It has been a protracted, repetitive debate which, ironically, has led to us failing properly to address issues, such as those about the Delegated Powers Committee, which we have to take seriously. I find it disingenuous that the amendment to the amendment states that we have not taken proper account of this committee, when the reason we have not been able to is that we have not got to that bit of the Bill yet, because we have spent so much time on other bits.

There has been criticism of the noble and learned Lord, Lord Falconer, for not moving enough. I think he described the processes that he has been through. I have been present at many of those meetings, and attempts have been made to find a serious process to identify the issues that are most important to try to reach either consensus or a point where we can vote on them and decide what we want to tell the other place. Instead, we have spent hours focusing elsewhere. A very brave woman dying of stage 4 breast cancer said to me, “I’ve listened to you, and what you have been doing is focusing all the time on hypothetical harms, some of them bizarre—the pregnancy test and those sorts of issues. What you have done is ignore the actual and profound suffering that is before your eyes”. That is a serious accusation to us.

Of course, as legislators, we have a responsibility to scrutinise legislation like this for safety, but we also have a responsibility to have a full debate and reach conclusions. We have not discharged that responsibility, and we should all reflect very seriously on that.

Midwives: Graduate Guarantee

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Tuesday 21st April 2026 Lords Chamber

[Baroness Merron (Lab)]

The issue is more a misalignment of numbers than a straightforward shortage, as the number of midwives has increased. There was a 2.6% increase in January 2026 compared to the year before, so the trajectory is good. The misalignment, as I have explained, is that we are dealing with a situation where midwives are being trained but they cannot get jobs. That is what we have to bring together and what we are doing through the graduate guarantee scheme.

[Baroness Prentis of Banbury (Con)]

My Lords, does the noble Baroness share my concern that there is an increasing trend towards encouraging women to give birth in large hospital centres further from their homes and does she agree that an increase in midwives—as well as in obs and gynae professionals of all sorts—would enable us to behave more like France and Germany do, for example, and aim for units of between 2,000 and 4,000 births a year?

[Baroness Merron (Lab)]

Obviously, what matter most are patient safety and patient satisfaction, and I am very much looking forward to the independent report from my noble friend Lady Amos in this regard, because she is focusing on that. I am sure that she will consider the best place. I cannot comment on whether the noble and learned Baroness’s assertion will be the best option here, but there was a separate call for evidence under the workforce plan so that we could hear directly from maternity and neonatal staff.

Health and Social Care

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Monday 2nd March 2020 Ministerial Corrections

The following is an extract from the urgent question on Maternity Services: East Kent on 13 February 2020.

[Victoria Prentis]

All too often when a baby dies, the shutters come down in a trust and we cannot get the answers that we need. Will the Minister—who is providing great leadership in this area—meet members of the all-party group on baby loss to discuss how best we can use MBRRACE-UK, HSIB and other investigators to get to the bottom of what happens? Will she also think about making maternal deaths a never event?

[Ms Dorries]

I fear that you will shout at me again, Mr Speaker, if I try to answer my hon. Friend’s question fully, because I agree with everything that she has said. Maternal deaths absolutely must become a never event, and we must focus on making pre-eclampsia and post-partum haemorrhage, which lead to such deaths, never events. I went to the first meeting of the APPG on baby loss and, as my hon. Friend knows, I am always happy to go and hear anything that anyone has to say about this issue that will help our work in trying to improve maternity standards.

[Official Report, 13 February 2020, Vol. 671, c. 988.]

Letter of correction from the Under-Secretary of State for Health and Social Care, the hon. Member for Mid Bedfordshire (Ms Dorries):

An error has been identified in the response I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Banbury (Victoria Prentis).

The correct response should have been:

Maternity Services: East Kent

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Thursday 13th February 2020 Commons Chamber

[Ms Dorries]

As my hon. Friend knows, I have been to Shrewsbury and Telford Hospital NHS Trust to reassure myself—line by line—that every recommendation that was made by the Care Quality Commission has been implemented and is working. I thank her for raising this issue, but I also want to emphasise that Shrewsbury and Telford is a safe place for women to give birth, because the same robust approach is being taken there. It is a safe environment, and, as my hon. Friend will know, a new midwife-led unit will be opening shortly.

However, there is a culture that I know concerns the former Health Secretary, my right hon. Friend the Member for South West Surrey (Jeremy Hunt). In such circumstances, trusts do not feel able to put their arms around parents, to say sorry, to explain to them what has happened, and to show compassion or care. That culture must be broken, and I think that HSIB will go a long way towards contributing to the process.

[Victoria Prentis (Banbury) (Con)]

All too often when a baby dies, the shutters come down in a trust and we cannot get the answers that we need. Will the Minister—who is providing great leadership in this area—meet members of the all-party group on baby loss to discuss how best we can use MBRRACE-UK, HSIB and other investigators to get to the bottom of what happens? Will she also think about making maternal deaths a never event?

[Ms Dorries]

I fear that you will shout at me again, Mr Speaker, if I try to answer my hon. Friend’s question fully, because I agree with everything that she has said. Maternal deaths absolutely must become a never event, and we must focus on making pre-eclampsia and post-partum haemorrhage, which lead to such deaths, never events. I went to the first meeting of the APPG on baby loss and, as my hon. Friend knows, I am always happy to go and hear anything that anyone has to say about this issue that will help our work in trying to improve maternity standards[Official Report, 2 March 2020, Vol. 672, c. 4MC.].

NHS Funding Bill

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2nd reading & 2nd reading: House of Commons
Monday 27th January 2020 Commons Chamber

[Jeremy Hunt]

I suggest to the hon. Lady, whom I greatly respect, that the overall figure is actually what counts. I agree that public health spending matters, but it is absolutely the case that we are heading to being one of the higher spenders in our commitment to health. That is very significant and should not be dismissed.

Often, the debate about funding can distort some of the real debates that we need to have about the NHS. One of those is the debate on social care. If we do not have an equivalent five-year funding plan for social care, there will not be enough money for the NHS. That is because of the total interdependence of the health and social care systems. It is not about finding money to stop people having to sell their homes if they get dementia, important though that is; it is about the core money available to local authorities to spend on their responsibilities in adult social care. I tried to negotiate a five-year deal for social care at the same time as the NHS funding deal we are debating today. I failed, but I am delighted to have a successor who has enormously strong skills of persuasion and great contacts in the Treasury. I have no doubt that he will secure a fantastic deal for adult social care to sit alongside the deal on funding, and I wish him every success in that vital area.

The second distortion that often happens in a debate about funding is that while everyone on the NHS front line welcomes additional funding, their real concern is about capacity. The capacity of staff to deliver really matters. I remember year after year trying to avert a winter crisis by giving the NHS extra money, and most of the time I gave the money and we still had a winter crisis, because ultimately we can give the NHS £2 billion or £3 billion more, but if there are not doctors and nurses available to hire for that £2 billion or £3 billion, the result is simply to inflate the salaries of locum doctors and agency nurses and the money is wasted. Central to understanding capacity is the recognition that it takes three years to train a nurse, seven years to train a doctor and 13 years to train a consultant, so a long-term plan is needed. It is essential that alongside the funding plan, we have in the people plan that I know the NHS is to publish soon an independently verified 10-year workforce plan that specifies how many doctors, nurses, midwives, allied healthcare professionals and so on we will need.

[Victoria Prentis (Banbury) (Con)]

Will my right hon. Friend give us his views on the maternity safety training fund, which I understand is up for renewal soon, and its importance to the midwives of the future?

[Jeremy Hunt]

When we talk about the workforce, training is vital. We know from the 2018 “Mind the Gap” report on the issues at the Shrewsbury and Telford and the East Kent trusts, among others, that only 8% of trusts supply all the care needs in the saving babies’ lives bundle, so the maternity safety training fund is essential. I hope the Health Secretary will renew it, because it makes a big difference.

It is vital that we have an independent figure for the number of doctors and nurses the NHS needs, not a figure negotiated between the Department of Health and Social Care and the Treasury because the Treasury will always try to negotiate the number down and we will end up not training enough people. I know the Health Secretary is on the case.

The final distortion when we talk about funding for the NHS is the link between funding and the quality of care. It is totally understandable that many people think that the way to improve the quality of care is to increase funding, but in reality the relationship is much more complex. As the Health Secretary knows well, we pay the same tariff to all hospitals in the NHS, and with the same amount of money some of them deliver absolutely outstanding, world-class care and others do not. Almost without exception, hospitals rated good or outstanding by the Care Quality Commission have better finances than those rated as requiring improvement or inadequate, which are often losing huge sums. The reason for that, as every doctor or nurse in the NHS knows, is that poor care is usually the most expensive type of care to deliver. A patient who acquires a bedsore or an MRSA or C. diff infection, or has a fall that could have been avoided, will stay in hospital longer, which will cost more. It will cost the hospital more, it will cost the NHS more, and finances will deteriorate. Invariably, the path the safer care is the same as the path to lower cost. That is why it is so important that we recognise that the safety and quality agenda is consistent with the plan to get NHS finances under control.

It is also why it is important to remember that the Mid Staffs scandal happened in a period of record funding increases for the NHS. So when it comes to NHS funding, transparency, openness, a culture that learns from mistakes, innovation and prevention are every bit as important as pounds and pence.

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[Victoria Prentis (Banbury) (Con)]

It is a pleasure to follow such a great speech and to see the hon. Member for Rhondda (Chris Bryant) looking so well.

There is no complacency on this side of the House, but there is a feeling that this is an upbeat debate. I am thrilled to support the Bill and, indeed, to support the great Health team. It is hard to choose a favourite among them, because I have so many asks.

No one will be surprised that I start with the exciting developments at Horton General Hospital. First, we have a new award-winning, nurse-led clinic for deep vein thrombosis. It is a one-stop diagnostic clinic for patients who need urgent treatment, and it is up and running now. Secondly, we have the Horton hip fracture clinic, which has been named as one of the best in the country for the past seven years in a row. Thirdly, we have a new chemotherapy service, launched last September, for children aged up to 19. The service provides intravenous chemo for patients who would otherwise travel to Oxford. We are now in a good place at Horton General Hospital.

We are recovering from that dreadful period in which I was first elected, when we all went to court against the clinical commissioning group. There was a botched consultation and relationships fractured. It was town versus city, and all was not a happy place. We have worked hard on repairing those broken relationships. Lou Patten, the head of our clinical commissioning group, deserves a special mention. Sadly, she moves on in March, but I spoke to her this morning and we have high hopes that her successor will continue to take things forward. We are united in our desire to make sure the Horton is fit for the future.

We have plans for a new modular building, and the Department will be hearing from us on those plans very shortly. I say to colleagues that it is worth working together to rebuild those fractured relationships. We are making real progress locally.

There is certainly no cause for complacency on primary care. GP appointments continue to be an issue, and the Horsefair surgery is in the local news a great deal at the moment. We have a great campaigning local journalist, even though she has stood against me at several general elections, and this is one example of how we can work together to put things right. Following those stories, and following the complaints I have received from constituents, I spoke this morning to the clinical commissioning group, which told me that it will investigate the issues that have been raised.

The Horsefair surgery recently changed ownership, and it is moving from the locum model to having more employed GPs, which can only be good, but bravery is needed to tackle the systemic difficulties in how GPs operate, particularly in areas of the country where the building’s ownership can make a real difference to a practice’s sustainability.

We have been hearing a great deal about palliative care in the national news this week, with our brilliant Katharine House hospice featuring heavily. We have real concerns about the funding model for palliative care. We want to enable people to die at home, or as near to home as possible, and I will be writing to the Department further about this.

I have been involved with the all-party parliamentary group on baby loss since the beginning, when I was vice-chairman because it seemed to me that other Members had more current stories to tell. This afternoon, those other Members either having left this place or having moved to ministerial office, I was elected as chairman. The hon. Member for Washington and Sunderland West (Mrs Hodgson) and I have always been involved with the APPG, and we all share in its extraordinary success so far.

I would like to claim some credit for how the APPG bolstered the Government’s ambition to reduce stillborn and neonatal deaths and also for Jack’s law, which is about to be enacted in April, but we have much more to do. My hon. Friend the Member for Dover (Mrs Elphicke) spoke very movingly about Tallulah-Rai, and we must make certain such mistakes do not happen again.

I have two specific requests of the Department this evening. The first is for data. The Department has an ambitious target to reduce the number of stillborn and neonatal deaths. We need to see what we have been doing for the past five years and we need to see what works to enable us to take forward the “Saving Babies’ Lives” care bundle in the most strategically useful and efficient way, so I will be writing to the Department on behalf of the APPG specifically to ask for data.

My second major ask is about the national bereavement care pathway. I am glad to say that only nine trusts, a very small number, have not engaged with the APPG on this at all. I will be naming them in the future, so I strongly advise them to engage pretty soon. Many trusts are starting to establish services, but the APPG is calling this year for the Department to support the roll-out of the national bereavement care pathway. We want both policy and financial support and real oomph behind this initiative.

I am particularly grateful to the Department for telling CQC inspectors that the national bereavement care pathway has to be part of the maternity section of their inspections. Can the pathway also be included in the A&E and gynaecology sections? Only if hospitals have to consider this on a nitty-gritty level will they insist that it is taken forward seriously.

I have trespassed long enough on your indulgence, Mr Deputy Speaker, but I welcome this initiative, and I really think there is hope for the future.

Baby Loss Awareness Week

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Tuesday 8th October 2019 Commons Chamber

[Victoria Prentis (Banbury) (Con)]

As ever, I am grateful to be called to speak, Madam Deputy Speaker, although I was not anticipating it because I was not here at the beginning of the debate. I can only apologise for that, but I was elsewhere on unavoidable duties.

This is a debate in which we love to hate participating. It is not a pleasurable experience for anyone who has lost a child, and I know that some Members across the House feel exactly as I do when speaking in this debate. Nevertheless, I am grateful for the opportunity to lay my annual asks on the table.

First, I must give an enormous amount of thanks to the previous Secretary of State for Health and Social Care, my right hon. Friend the Member for South West Surrey (Mr Hunt), whose speech I am really looking forward to watching on catch-up tonight. I am immensely grateful, as are all of us who have been involved in this area for many years, for all that he did. It must be counted as one of his major achievements as Secretary of State that there has been a 19% reduction in stillbirths and an 8% reduction in maternal mortality since 2010. Those are really good figures, and I hope that he will look back on his career in many years when he retires—

[Mr Hunt]

I can retire now. [Laughter.]

[Victoria Prentis]

I hope that my right hon. Friend will count that among his most important achievements. I expect that he said, as did the hon. Member for Ellesmere Port and Neston (Justin Madders), that blame is probably not the way to go, and that we need a cultural shift in the NHS, so my ask this year is that we should make maternal death a never event. Luckily, maternal deaths are rare—I was almost one of them myself—but making them a never event, with the definition and the muscle that that provides, would be very helpful.

With my prison service background, I should add that a child or, indeed, a mother dying in custody should also probably be a never event, with all the chain of investigations that should flow from that. I know that the recent death in custody is being very well investigated, and there is no need to comment further on that case now. The never event definition is helpful, because it sets in train a course of investigations that need not be blamed-filled but which are helpful for learning.

Sadly, the situation elsewhere is not as helpful as in this country. A baby dies every 11 seconds worldwide, and many maternal deaths are completely preventable. I am pleased that the Secretary of State for International Development has chosen to make maternity a priority for the Department for International Trade. He wrote an excellent article about it in The Times last week, and I encourage hon. Members to read that article.

The Secretary of State for International Development is helping members of the Royal College of Midwives to provide training in rural Bangladesh, and he is resourcing organisations that work with women who have had female genital mutilation performed on them and who have dreadful maternal complications as a result. He is working to provide vaccinations, which are so helpful in preventing the death of newborn babies. Across the board, the fact that maternity is now a priority for DFID is really helpful.

I close by thanking you, Madam Deputy Speaker, for your support in this area and for allowing me to say a few brief words this afternoon, and by advertising the baby loss service at St Mary’s, Banbury at 6 o’clock this Sunday. It is an extraordinary event, and we have been doing it for only a few years. People came to that church in the first year who had never talked about their loss, and it is overwhelming.

Such services are taking place all over the country, as the hon. Member for Ellesmere Port and Neston said. Unfortunately we have not organised one in Parliament this year, as we normally do, because we are not sitting, but I am sure we will organise one in future years. I thank everybody who has taken part in this debate, which I think is now annual. I am thrilled that we have Government time, and I hope we have it again in future.

Health Infrastructure Plan

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Monday 30th September 2019 Commons Chamber

[Edward Argar]

If it is any reassurance to the hon. Gentleman, I can say that I was enjoying Manchester yesterday and this morning, and then came down here to enjoy being at the Dispatch Box. Let me also say that if he wanted to see fewer of us here and rather more in Manchester, perhaps he should have voted in favour of a small recess to allow us to go and support the economy of his city. As for his question about the hospital trust, of course I should be very happy to meet him.

[Victoria Prentis (Banbury) (Con)]

We had some bad news in Banbury last week about our obstetric unit, but partly as a consequence, two positive steps have been taken. I have met the Secretary of State twice in the past week, and I have managed to get the clinical commissioning group and the head of the trust on the same page, and we were able to apply for some seed funding. Can the Minister assure me that he will look on that application favourably and that we will make Horton General Hospital fit for the future?

[Edward Argar]

I know the Horton well from my time as the parliamentary candidate for Oxford East, which I fought in 2010 and which, sadly, fought back. I also know of the work that my hon. Friend has done since before her time in the House in campaigning in the hospital’s interests. I will certainly look carefully at any application that is made, and I will judge it swiftly and fairly, as will the Secretary of State.

Oral Answers to Questions

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Tuesday 7th May 2019 Commons Chamber

[Stephen Hammond]

The NHS long-term plan will set out vital strategic frameworks to ensure that the needs for the next 10 years are met. The hon. Lady will know that we are training an extra 5,000 GPs to work in primary care and general practice. If she writes to me about the specifics of the numbers she mentioned in respect of Nottingham, I will be happy to respond.

[Victoria Prentis (Banbury) (Con)]

Those of us who are campaigning to reopen a full obstetric unit at Horton General Hospital know how important the workforce are to safety in our NHS. At an excellent meeting today, Baroness Harding set out some of the things we can do to increase our workforce, one of which was much better leadership and career planning for the staff we are already retaining in the NHS so that they want to stay longer. What is the Department doing about that?

[Stephen Hammond]

As my hon. Friend has heard, the Secretary of State commissioned Baroness Harding to bring forward the interim workforce plan. One of the workstreams was looking at retention and the staff we currently have. More than 52,000 nurses are in undergraduate training, and it is essential that they stay in the NHS after training. What Baroness Harding outlined today will ensure that that happens.

Bereavement Counselling

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Tuesday 26th March 2019 Commons Chamber

[Matt Warman]

I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention, and I agree with him and will mention that issue in a few moments.

There should be a dedicated mental health helpline provided through the NHS, which under the long-term plan will be accessed via 111. It is important that there is an understanding within that that bereavement for a long time is an exacerbating factor in loneliness, suicide and more; it is a red flag that should be recorded for a long time.

The importance of such ongoing support cannot be overstated. We have spoken in this House many times about the tragedy of the rise in male suicide; while things are improving there is still a huge stigma around men feeling unable to open up and show their emotions—although I am hopefully doing all right today.

This is why it is particularly important to normalise the support around bereavement, and we must not leave it solely to those affected to reach out to organisations such as the Samaritans or Cruse. That registrar who I spoke to 10 years ago should have been trained to offer a signpost—although I confess that if he was or if he did I was in no state to listen—and the NHS and our volunteering strategy should include better plans to encourage more people to train as volunteer bereavement friends and counsellors, as in the hugely valuable work we see with Dementia Friends, or, as Sue Ryder has called them, the bereavement “first aiders”.

[Victoria Prentis (Banbury) (Con)]

My hon. Friend is making a fantastic speech and a series of good points. I am not at all ashamed to say that I had bereavement counselling when my son died, and I cannot see why anyone would not; we go to the doctor when we are feeling unwell, and of course we go to the bereavement counsellor when we need help with grief. Does my hon. Friend agree that it is very important that we normalise this?

[Matt Warman]

I absolutely agree.

There is also a role for us to play in opening up the debate and shining light on steps outside organisations can take to make bereavement in general more bearable, but also, on the theme of this debate, to make Mother’s Day or Father’s Day less difficult for those who have experienced loss.

Oral Answers to Questions

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Tuesday 15th January 2019 Commons Chamber

[Stephen Hammond]

My hon. Friend is right to recognise that community provision lies at the heart of the long-term plan, and that a number of health service professionals make up that community provision. If he wishes to write to me about registers, I will be delighted to respond.

[Victoria Prentis (Banbury) (Con)]

The Minister knows about our difficulties in recruiting obstetricians, which has led to what we very much hope is the temporary closure of the full obstetrics service at Horton General Hospital in Banbury. We are doing everything we can locally to rectify that situation. What more can the Minister do to help us nationally?

[Stephen Hammond]

I pay tribute to my hon. Friend’s campaign and her tireless work on behalf of her constituents. Figures from the Royal College of Midwives show that there are over 2,000 more midwives on our wards since 2010. The NHS plans to train 3,000 more midwives over the next four years, and as of last September there are over 5,000 more doctors in obstetrics and gynaecology than there were in May 2010. The NHS is hoping to fulfil what my hon. Friend wants to see.