All 3 Debates between Lord Herbert of South Downs and Chris Leslie

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Debate between Lord Herbert of South Downs and Chris Leslie
Monday 27th June 2011

(12 years, 10 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Lord Herbert of South Downs Portrait Nick Herbert
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I would like to have a further discussion with my hon. Friend about what obstacles there are to that. We certainly want to ensure that the police are able to exercise their existing powers to move on Travellers who are in illegal occupation of sites, which is totally unacceptable and antisocial. We believe that the powers are there; if there are impediments or if the force is encountering some difficulty, I would welcome a conversation with my hon. Friend about that.

Chris Leslie Portrait Chris Leslie (Nottingham East) (Lab/Co-op)
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Why are the Government increasing the administrative burden on the police by making them apply to a magistrates court to retain the DNA of those suspected of serious criminal offences? Surely, the retention of that DNA should be automatic. Is the Minister going to rethink this in time for the Bill’s Report stage?

Lord Herbert of South Downs Portrait Nick Herbert
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We have to strike the right balance between civil liberties and the effectiveness of these crime-fighting tools, but it would simply be wrong to characterise the Government’s approach as increasing the burden on police. We are returning charging decisions to the police and our aim is that 70% of all decisions will now be made by police without having to go to the Crown Prosecution Service, so we are giving more discretion and control to the police and we are reducing bureaucracy.

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Debate between Lord Herbert of South Downs and Chris Leslie
Monday 24th January 2011

(13 years, 3 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Lord Herbert of South Downs Portrait Nick Herbert
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The short answer is yes. Police forces could make huge savings by collaborating with each other and with other authorities. An example is the proposed national police air service, which will save £15 million a year once it is fully in place. I hope that police authorities will agree to it.

Chris Leslie Portrait Chris Leslie (Nottingham East) (Lab/Co-op)
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Would it not be a mistake to prop up rural police funding by plundering the police resources of urban areas? For example, many people in my constituency are worried about the future of Sherwood police station. Why are the Government cutting the most from the least well-off communities?

Lord Herbert of South Downs Portrait Nick Herbert
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I agree with the hon. Gentleman that that would be a mistake, and we certainly do not make funding allocations on that basis. Of course police forces have had to make savings, but we have decided that the fairest approach is to ensure that all forces make an equal share of the savings. The majority of grant is, of course, allocated according to the formula.

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Debate between Lord Herbert of South Downs and Chris Leslie
Monday 6th September 2010

(13 years, 8 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Lord Herbert of South Downs Portrait Nick Herbert
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I agree with my hon. Friend and understand her concern about those crimes. A recent report of the inspectorate of constabulary found that the police were visible and available to the community for an average of only about 10% of the time because they are too tied up in bureaucracy. We must tackle that.

Chris Leslie Portrait Chris Leslie (Nottingham East) (Lab/Co-op)
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Will the Minister start to collect statistics on how long the police have to wait in court to give evidence? If his Government start slashing the Crown Prosecution Service budget, closing courts and reducing civilian officers, will that waiting time not grow longer?

Lord Herbert of South Downs Portrait Nick Herbert
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The fact is that we have one of the most expensive criminal justice systems in the world. The test of its effectiveness is not the amount of money that we spend on it, but how efficient it is. Tomorrow I shall discuss with the inspectorate of constabulary the administrative and bureaucratic obstacles that impact on the police in inefficient court processes, which we must tackle.