Ministry of Defence Procurement: Accountability

Lord Trefgarne Excerpts

Wednesday 29th March 2023 Lords Chamber

[Lord Harlech (Con)]

My Lords, my interpretation of what red means differs somewhat. Defence proudly delivers some of the largest programmes across government. These processes are complex, and the delivery confidence assessments are an important tool to provide challenge and support for successful delivery. A project being rated red or amber does not necessarily mean that it will not be delivered on time or budget; it means that we have identified risks that need managing. We see this as effective programme management. The MoD will continue to introduce changes to improve our management of major projects.

[Lord Trefgarne (Con)]

My Lords, I declare an interest: I was the Defence Procurement Minister from 1986 to 1989. My worst moment was having to explain to my then right honourable friend the Prime Minister that we were about to cancel the AEW Nimrod—she was not amused. On the other side of the scale, we ordered the Challenger 2 tanks, which are now playing an important part in Ukraine.

[Lord Harlech (Con)]

I am pleased to say that Challenger 3, the main battle tank to replace Challenger 2, is proceeding according to plan.