Debates between Lord Soley and Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen during the 2019 Parliament

UK: System of Government

Debate between Lord Soley and Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen
Tuesday 21st January 2020

(4 years, 3 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen Portrait Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen
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I thank the noble Lord very much for chatting to me last week about this Question. Apart from the obvious practical difficulties, there is no guarantee that moving to a federal system would ensure that the union remained intact. We believe that our focus should be on working for the whole of our great country, to open up opportunities for people across our union and to unleash the productive power of every corner of the United Kingdom. I think my noble friend Lord Howe said everything that was to be said about the commission, but I am sure, as happened last week, that the department will listen to what is said in this Chamber, including what the noble Lord, Lord Foulkes, has said.

Lord Soley Portrait Lord Soley (Lab)
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Does the Minister accept that my noble friend has a very good point about the need to examine this in detail? There is a case for looking at federalism and confederalism, but the problem within England is the size of the south-east: 20 million people live in that corner—one-third of the total UK population—of whom, incidentally, about 400,000 to 500,000 are Scots, who might want to vote if there was to be another referendum in Scotland. Will she look very carefully at the work of the commission to see whether it can be as wide and detailed as possible?

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen Portrait Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen
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Obviously, the commission will need to command public confidence through its membership and the way it operates. The Government are wholly mindful of that.