Lord Rooker
Main Page: Lord Rooker (Labour - Life peer)(1 day, 9 hours ago)
Lords ChamberMy Lords, before we begin debate in Committee today, I have a few brief remarks to make. First, I reiterate my thanks, on behalf of the whole House, to all staff across the House for their work facilitating this sitting. A huge amount of work takes place during the day of the sitting, and in the days before, to enable us to consider this important business.
On today’s Committee stage, I will not repeat my previous statements, but I remind noble Lords that, in line with the resolution of the House to ask for more time on the Bill, I will look to adjourn proceedings around 6 pm, but any noble Lord can seek to bring proceedings to an end at any time by moving a Motion that the House be now resumed. I hope we can conclude the group we are on when we adjourn but, if necessary, I will adjourn the House during the middle of a group. The Clerk at the Table will have compiled a list of all noble Lords in attendance at the beginning of that adjourned group. Noble Lords will be able to check with the Table to ensure their name is registered on the list, if the group is to be adjourned. It will remain the case that only those present at the start of a debate can participate, even on a subsequent day.
To help those participating throughout the day, the Whips have facilitated a 40-minute lunch break at around 1 pm. My noble and learned friend Lord Falconer has set a target for today’s debate. I hope that the usual discipline and courtesies of the House will make for some more progress. Courtesy, kindness and respect for noble Lords who have a different opinion from yours, remembering that everybody holds views just as sincerely as you hold yours, should be the cornerstone of our debates, today and always.
For general guidance on how noble Lords should conduct themselves, I highly recommend the Companion; paragraph 4.29 on page 60 and paragraphs 8.81 and 8.82 on page 143 are particularly useful for today’s proceedings. Noble Lords should not be having conversations with others during the debate. If you want to have conversations, please leave the Chamber to do that. With that, I think we should move on to the business before us.
My Lords, before my noble friend sits down, I want to raise the point with him that I am getting really irritated by constantly hearing Peers on the wireless complaining about filibustering. It has happened twice this week—it happens every week. The fact of the matter is that I have been here every day except one, and on not one occasion has anybody ever stood up and complained to a speaker that they were filibustering. Why is it only by going external that Peers do that? What prevents someone who feels a filibuster is going on getting up and saying so here, and being honest and courteous with the House over it?
Can I respond to that? I am the person who has been complaining about filibustering on the radio. I moved a Motion on 8 January in which I set out in detail my position about the delays that have been made. I have complied completely, and continue to comply completely, with the courtesies of the House during the debate, but that does not mean that I do not think that we are taking an undue length of time in relation to it. May I give the House the statistics?
We have spent 53 hours debating this Bill in Committee. If we include the additional scrutiny by the Select Committee and the two full days of debate at Second Reading, we have had more than 80 hours of deliberations on this Bill since it was passed to us in June—more than eight months ago. In total, 1,253 amendments have been tabled, of which we have debated 354 so far. We have over 850 amendments left to be debated, which would suggest we need another 22 days in Committee if we continue at this glacial pace. After nine days of debate, we have completed consideration of just three clauses. We have debated 26 groups and have another 60 still to go.
I completely endorse what my noble friend the Chief Whip has said—that we have got to be kind and courteous. I would earnestly ask the House to consider whether or not we could agree informally how we can make progress and complete Committee by the end of the next day because otherwise we will fail to do what we are so good at, which is scrutiny and improvement. The way it is going at the moment, we will reach no conclusions whatsoever; we will appear to be an irrelevant talking shop.