Debates between Lord Purvis of Tweed and Lord Keen of Elie during the 2017-2019 Parliament

Thu 16th May 2019
Wed 21st Mar 2018
European Union (Withdrawal) Bill
Lords Chamber

Committee: 9th sitting (Hansard): House of Lords

Probation Reform

Debate between Lord Purvis of Tweed and Lord Keen of Elie
Thursday 16th May 2019

(5 years, 1 month ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Keen of Elie Portrait Lord Keen of Elie
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My Lords, I welcome my noble friend Lord Bates back from his perambulations. We are of course concerned to ensure that through-the-gate services in particular can be developed to the point where such essentials as support, accommodation, the addressing of mental health issues and attention to misuse of drugs issues are brought to bear as swiftly as possible. One cannot give a time limit for that at this stage but clearly that underpins the proposals that we have put into this document.

Lord Purvis of Tweed Portrait Lord Purvis of Tweed (LD)
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My Lords, will the Minister state on the record categorically that the National Audit Office was wrong to say that this has cost the taxpayer £171 million?

Lord Keen of Elie Portrait Lord Keen of Elie
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I did not say that the National Audit Office was wrong but pointed out that the actual cost of the CRC contracts was in fact substantially below the figure that had been budgeted for originally, which arises out of their termination.

Brexit: Powers of EU-UK Joint Committee

Debate between Lord Purvis of Tweed and Lord Keen of Elie
Wednesday 20th March 2019

(5 years, 2 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Keen of Elie Portrait Lord Keen of Elie
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My Lords, Parliament could not overrule a decision of the joint committee. However, those attending the joint committee on behalf of the United Kingdom will take with them the mandate from this Parliament.

Lord Purvis of Tweed Portrait Lord Purvis of Tweed (LD)
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Will the Minister be clear about how that mandate will be secured? Is it the assumption that, before the position of the UK representatives on the committee is presented to the committee, it will have been passed by a resolution of both Houses? If that is not the case, how can the Minister say that there will be a mandate?

Lord Keen of Elie Portrait Lord Keen of Elie
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First, membership of the joint committee will not necessarily be fixed. Its final constitution has not yet been agreed and may vary from time to time. Secondly, the manner in which members will carry their mandate from Parliament has yet to be agreed.

European Union (Withdrawal) Bill

Debate between Lord Purvis of Tweed and Lord Keen of Elie
Lord Keen of Elie Portrait Lord Keen of Elie
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As regards agricultural support, that is another subspecies of agriculture. I am dealing with those matters that fall within the 24 identified areas where we find it necessary to retain and operate the single internal market. Not all areas within those 24 competencies are going to have to be retained for the purposes of that market. There are areas which we will devolve.

Lord Purvis of Tweed Portrait Lord Purvis of Tweed
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The Minister is making a very strong case for how a single market can operate effectively. Does he not believe that the United Kingdom could operate under a frictionless trading or regulatory arrangement with managed divergence across the four nations?

Lord Keen of Elie Portrait Lord Keen of Elie
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That is not what is in contemplation, and that is why I am trying to explain the Government’s thinking with regard to maintaining effectively a single market, not frictionless borders between nations within the United Kingdom, which is a different issue altogether and one that does arise in a different context.