Coronavirus Grants: Fraud Debate

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Department: Leader of the House
Tuesday 25th January 2022

(2 years, 5 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Viscount Younger of Leckie Portrait Viscount Younger of Leckie (Con)
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My noble friend makes a very good point. As I alluded to earlier, HMRC and BEIS are working very hard in conjunction with the lenders to recover as much as we possibly can. I reiterate that the figures, as noble Lords will tell me, are big. We have paid out altogether more than £400 billion to support the economy. It is fair to say that to that extent it has been a great success, because the economy is in very good shape.

Lord Patel Portrait Lord Patel (CB)
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My Lords—

Earl Howe Portrait Earl Howe (Con)
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My Lords, it is the turn of the Cross Benches.

Lord Patel Portrait Lord Patel (CB)
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My Lords, I listened to the debate yesterday, in which the noble Lord, Lord Agnew, indicated that some lenders were failing on fraud. Can the Minister say which lenders are failing on fraud?

Viscount Younger of Leckie Portrait Viscount Younger of Leckie (Con)
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I do not accept the premise that lenders are failing on fraud, and, of course, the noble Lord, Lord Patel, will know that I am not in a position to name individual lenders. However, lenders continue to work closely with the Government on counterfraud, including recovering £1.2 million on facilities identified as fraudulent so far. It is important that lenders are held accountable for taxpayers’ money, and all lenders continue to be subject to a robust audit process by the British Business Bank.