Debates between Lord Naseby and Lord Freud during the 2015-2017 Parliament

Mon 21st Nov 2016
Pension Schemes Bill [HL]
Lords Chamber

Committee: 1st sitting (Hansard): House of Lords

Pension Schemes Bill [HL]

Debate between Lord Naseby and Lord Freud
Lord Freud Portrait Lord Freud
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We will come on to discussing Clause 39 later, but I think that it will be fairly specific—sorry, no, I think that it will not be specific. It will be general types.

Lord Naseby Portrait Lord Naseby
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I raised a point on the specifics of the universities superannuation scheme, which is really very large. I do not expect a concrete answer this afternoon, but could my noble friend cover it for me in writing or make sure that it comes back in some form so that the universities can be reassured?

Housing: Under-occupancy

Debate between Lord Naseby and Lord Freud
Monday 17th October 2016

(7 years, 7 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Freud Portrait Lord Freud
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The problem that I have in answering the noble Baroness right now is that, as she will be aware, we are currently awaiting a judgment from the Supreme Court on groups of people affected by the spare room subsidy policy. During this time, it is not appropriate for Ministers or officials to meet with particular groups. We had the hearing at the end of February, so we are expecting to hear the outcome of the case quite soon. After that, I will engage with the noble Baroness.

Lord Naseby Portrait Lord Naseby (Con)
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Is it not extraordinary that the previous Question was, rightly, about homelessness—indeed parts of the Shelter report addressed major problems—yet in this Chamber we have consistently heard disagreements and challenges to, and non-acceptance of, the very idea of underoccupancy? Would it not be a nice change if people recognised that most of the underoccupancy challenges do not have much validity? The people in those homes should think about downsizing appropriately or, if not, paying the relevant rent for overoccupying them.

Lord Freud Portrait Lord Freud
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The number of those affected by the policy has now come down by 21%. Some have downsized; many others have got jobs. In the last years, the number on waiting lists has now come down very appreciably—by nearly half a million—as councils are able to manage those waiting lists more flexibly.