Information between 3rd March 2025 - 23rd March 2025
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18 Mar 2025 - Non-Domestic Rating (Multipliers and Private Schools) Bill - View Vote Context Lord Moynihan voted Aye - in line with the party majority and in line with the House One of 156 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 232 Noes - 141 |
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18 Mar 2025 - Non-Domestic Rating (Multipliers and Private Schools) Bill - View Vote Context Lord Moynihan voted Aye - in line with the party majority and in line with the House One of 183 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 255 Noes - 165 |
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18 Mar 2025 - Non-Domestic Rating (Multipliers and Private Schools) Bill - View Vote Context Lord Moynihan voted Aye - in line with the party majority and in line with the House One of 180 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 272 Noes - 157 |
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18 Mar 2025 - Non-Domestic Rating (Multipliers and Private Schools) Bill - View Vote Context Lord Moynihan voted Aye - in line with the party majority and in line with the House One of 190 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 271 Noes - 179 |
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18 Mar 2025 - Non-Domestic Rating (Multipliers and Private Schools) Bill - View Vote Context Lord Moynihan voted Aye - in line with the party majority and in line with the House One of 190 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 283 Noes - 177 |
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17 Mar 2025 - Football Governance Bill [HL] - View Vote Context Lord Moynihan voted Aye - in line with the party majority and against the House One of 167 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 182 Noes - 237 |
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17 Mar 2025 - Football Governance Bill [HL] - View Vote Context Lord Moynihan voted No - in line with the party majority and in line with the House One of 158 Conservative No votes vs 0 Conservative Aye votes Tally: Ayes - 74 Noes - 339 |
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17 Mar 2025 - Football Governance Bill [HL] - View Vote Context Lord Moynihan voted Aye - in line with the party majority and against the House One of 146 Conservative Aye votes vs 1 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 175 Noes - 207 |
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17 Mar 2025 - Football Governance Bill [HL] - View Vote Context Lord Moynihan voted Aye - in line with the party majority and against the House One of 168 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 183 Noes - 234 |
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17 Mar 2025 - Football Governance Bill [HL] - View Vote Context Lord Moynihan voted Aye - in line with the party majority and against the House One of 171 Conservative Aye votes vs 2 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 196 Noes - 229 |
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4 Mar 2025 - Terrorism (Protection of Premises) Bill - View Vote Context Lord Moynihan voted Aye - in line with the party majority and against the House One of 196 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 213 Noes - 249 |
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4 Mar 2025 - Terrorism (Protection of Premises) Bill - View Vote Context Lord Moynihan voted Aye - in line with the party majority and against the House One of 197 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 214 Noes - 248 |
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4 Mar 2025 - Terrorism (Protection of Premises) Bill - View Vote Context Lord Moynihan voted Aye - in line with the party majority and against the House One of 185 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 200 Noes - 236 |
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5 Mar 2025 - Product Regulation and Metrology Bill [HL] - View Vote Context Lord Moynihan voted Aye - in line with the party majority and against the House One of 152 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 167 Noes - 228 |
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5 Mar 2025 - Product Regulation and Metrology Bill [HL] - View Vote Context Lord Moynihan voted Aye - in line with the party majority and against the House One of 130 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 146 Noes - 189 |
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5 Mar 2025 - Product Regulation and Metrology Bill [HL] - View Vote Context Lord Moynihan voted Aye - in line with the party majority and against the House One of 166 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 174 Noes - 207 |
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11 Mar 2025 - Football Governance Bill [HL] - View Vote Context Lord Moynihan voted Aye - in line with the party majority and against the House One of 186 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 203 Noes - 257 |
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11 Mar 2025 - Football Governance Bill [HL] - View Vote Context Lord Moynihan voted Aye - in line with the party majority and against the House One of 195 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 224 Noes - 267 |
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11 Mar 2025 - Football Governance Bill [HL] - View Vote Context Lord Moynihan voted Aye - in line with the party majority and against the House One of 164 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 181 Noes - 234 |
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11 Mar 2025 - Football Governance Bill [HL] - View Vote Context Lord Moynihan voted Aye - in line with the party majority and against the House One of 35 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 43 Noes - 120 |
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Lord Moynihan speeches from: Finance Bill
Lord Moynihan contributed 1 speech (763 words) 2nd reading Wednesday 19th March 2025 - Lords Chamber HM Treasury |
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Lord Moynihan speeches from: Non-Domestic Rating (Multipliers and Private Schools) Bill
Lord Moynihan contributed 1 speech (641 words) Report stage Tuesday 18th March 2025 - Lords Chamber Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government |
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Lord Moynihan speeches from: Football Governance Bill [HL]
Lord Moynihan contributed 2 speeches (403 words) Report stage Monday 17th March 2025 - Lords Chamber |
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Lord Moynihan speeches from: Football Governance Bill [HL]
Lord Moynihan contributed 9 speeches (3,966 words) Report stage part one Tuesday 11th March 2025 - Lords Chamber |
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Lord Moynihan speeches from: Football Governance Bill [HL]
Lord Moynihan contributed 3 speeches (1,209 words) Report stage part two Tuesday 11th March 2025 - Lords Chamber |
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Lord Moynihan speeches from: House of Lords (Hereditary Peers) Bill
Lord Moynihan contributed 2 speeches (954 words) Committee stage part one Monday 3rd March 2025 - Lords Chamber Leader of the House |
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Ministers and Special Advisers: Corporate Hospitality
Asked by: Lord Moynihan (Conservative - Excepted Hereditary) Thursday 6th March 2025 Question to the Cabinet Office: To ask His Majesty's Government whether special advisers are permitted to accept tickets and hospitality to the Oasis Live ’25 tour from (1) the music industry, (2) the events industry, (3) the secondary market ticket platforms and (4) other sources; and what disclosure policy Ministers and Special Advisers are expected to follow if they are in receipt of such tickets and hospitality. Answered by Baroness Anderson of Stoke-on-Trent - Baroness in Waiting (HM Household) (Whip) Special advisers are bound by the provisions in the Code of Conduct for Special Advisers with regards to gifts and hospitality. Government departments publish details of hospitality received by special advisers in the course of their duties on a quarterly basis on GOV.UK.
Details of hospitality received in a ministerial capacity are published monthly by the Cabinet Office in the Register of Ministers’ Gifts and Hospitality on GOV.UK.
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10 Downing Street: Flags
Asked by: Lord Moynihan (Conservative - Excepted Hereditary) Thursday 6th March 2025 Question to the Cabinet Office: To ask His Majesty's Government which individual flags, apart from the Union flag and the flag of Ukraine, have been flown from 10 Downing Street since 5 July; and which occasions they marked. Answered by Baroness Anderson of Stoke-on-Trent - Baroness in Waiting (HM Household) (Whip) The Red Ensign was flown on Merchant Navy Day, the Saltire Flag was flown on St Andrew’s Day, and the St George’s Cross was flown for the UEFA European Football Championships final.
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Elon Musk
Asked by: Lord Moynihan (Conservative - Excepted Hereditary) Monday 10th March 2025 Question to the Department for Business and Trade: To ask His Majesty's Government, further to the Written Answer by the Minister of State for the Department for Business and Trade on 26 November 2024 (HC15163), why they are unable to comment whether Elon Musk or representatives from Twitter UK or X were invited to attend the International Investment Summit in October 2024. Answered by Baroness Gustafsson - Minister of State (Department for Business and Trade) The invitees for the Summit were carefully selected by DBT, HM Treasury and No.10 from our list of strategic business and current and future investment deals in the UK. DBT will continue to engage with all businesses that want to invest in the UK. |
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Sports: Finance
Asked by: Lord Moynihan (Conservative - Excepted Hereditary) Monday 10th March 2025 Question to the Department for Digital, Culture, Media & Sport: To ask His Majesty's Government what financial support UK Sport is offering to squash, baseball/softball, flag football, lacrosse and T20 cricket in the build-up to the Los Angeles Olympic Games in 2028 for the preparation of potential Team GB members of these sports. Answered by Baroness Twycross - Baroness in Waiting (HM Household) (Whip) The Government is fully committed to our elite sport system and enabling our athletes to achieve their potential and excel on the world stage. The Chancellor has confirmed that a multi-year investment will mean a total of £344 million is invested into UK Sport for Olympic and Paralympic success ahead of the Los Angeles Olympic and Paralympic Games in 2028. UK Sport made their funding decisions following a long and detailed investment process which included extensive discussion and consultation with each of the National Governing Bodies involved, and assessment against their investment principles. UK Sport have made the following awards for Los Angeles 2028 Olympics: Squash: £500,000 Baseball/Softball: £700,000 Flag Football: £500,000 Lacrosse: £700,000 T20 Cricket, as a sport with established alternative revenue streams, does not currently receive UK Sport funding.
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18 Mar 2025, 2:51 p.m. - House of Lords " I welcome the focus that noble Lord Moynihan 's question has put on the issue of negotiating " Lord Barber of Ainsdale (Labour) - View Video - View Transcript |
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18 Mar 2025, 2:56 p.m. - House of Lords "with my noble friend. But the noble Lord Moynihan might recall when he was the deputy of Transport for " Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill, Minister of State (Department for Transport) (Labour) - View Video - View Transcript |
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3 Mar 2025, 5:04 p.m. - House of Lords "the debate. My noble friend Lord Moynihan made precisely the point I made, it was perfectly reasonable " Lord True (Conservative) - View Video - View Transcript |
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11 Mar 2025, 5:45 p.m. - House of Lords "Lord Moynihan focuses on, a higher degree of influence and in clause 3 " Lord Pannick (Crossbench) - View Video - View Transcript |
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11 Mar 2025, 5:45 p.m. - House of Lords "clause 32 references to influence. In the subclause to be, the one that Lord Moynihan focuses on, a higher " Lord Fuller (Conservative) - View Video - View Transcript |
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11 Mar 2025, 5:45 p.m. - House of Lords "have a Lord Moynihan referred to " Lord Pannick (Crossbench) - View Video - View Transcript |
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11 Mar 2025, 5:47 p.m. - House of Lords "example, such as the one in my noble friend, Lord Moynihan, has set out. " Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay (Conservative) - View Video - View Transcript |
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11 Mar 2025, 5:51 p.m. - House of Lords "in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Moynihan. Before I go into a bit " Government Spokes. Baroness Twycross (Labour) - View Video - View Transcript |
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11 Mar 2025, 5:51 p.m. - House of Lords " I thank them noble Lords, Lord Parkinson, Lord Moynihan and Lord Fuller, for tabling their amendments, and advising me with the " Government Spokes. Baroness Twycross (Labour) - View Video - View Transcript |
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11 Mar 2025, 7:02 p.m. - House of Lords "minister with understanding as Lord Moynihan said not as a senior and " Lord Bassam of Brighton (Labour) - View Video - View Transcript |
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11 Mar 2025, 7:32 p.m. - House of Lords "the noble Lords Lord Moynihan, Lord Markham, as well as the members of the delegated house and three " Government Spokes. Baroness Twycross (Labour) - View Video - View Transcript |
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11 Mar 2025, 8:28 p.m. - House of Lords "Amendment 16, Lord Moynihan. >> I rise to address amendment 16 and 26 standing in my name on the " Amendment:16 Lord Moynihan (Conservative) - View Video - View Transcript |
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11 Mar 2025, 9:50 p.m. - House of Lords "contents have it. Amendment 25, Baroness Brady, not move? Not moved. Amendment 26, Lord Moynihan. Not " Deputy Lord Speaker. Baroness Newlove (Conservative) - View Video - View Transcript |
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11 Mar 2025, 10:03 p.m. - House of Lords "Amendment Amendment 28, Amendment 28, Lord Amendment 28, Lord Moynihan. Amendment 28, Lord Moynihan. Not " Deputy Lord Speaker. Baroness Newlove (Conservative) - View Video - View Transcript |
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11 Mar 2025, 4:43 p.m. - House of Lords "noble Lord Goddard refers to, it was very positive. Lord Moynihan decided " Lord Bassam of Brighton (Labour) - View Video - View Transcript |
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11 Mar 2025, 4:40 p.m. - House of Lords "regulation? Because, this would be welcomed enormously, I can tell Lord Moynihan by sports lawyers, such as " Lord Pannick (Crossbench) - View Video - View Transcript |
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11 Mar 2025, 4:44 p.m. - House of Lords ">> Lord Moynihan has articulated the pace of these amendments were great " Lord Bassam of Brighton (Labour) - View Video - View Transcript |
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11 Mar 2025, 4:41 p.m. - House of Lords "country. Lord Moynihan, I would be grateful when he comes to reply, he " Lord Pannick (Crossbench) - View Video - View Transcript |
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11 Mar 2025, 4:42 p.m. - House of Lords " I almost expected Lord Moynihan to withdraw these two amendments, following the meeting we had " Lord Goddard of Stockport (Liberal Democrat) - View Video - View Transcript |
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11 Mar 2025, 4:48 p.m. - House of Lords "Lord Moynihan was at that meeting, so he can confirm that is what they " Baroness Taylor of Bolton (Labour) - View Video - View Transcript |
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11 Mar 2025, 4:49 p.m. - House of Lords "my noble friends, Lord Moynihan, and my noble friends, Lady Brady, with great experience from their own " Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay (Conservative) - View Video - View Transcript |
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11 Mar 2025, 4:52 p.m. - House of Lords "Maybe the noble Lady can say a bit more about the correspondence she has had with UEFA, but if not, I do hope my noble friends, Lord hope my noble friends, Lord Moynihan, will continue to pursue this important issue. " Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay (Conservative) - View Video - View Transcript |
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11 Mar 2025, 4:53 p.m. - House of Lords "the FA confirmed directly with noble Lords, including the noble Lord, Lord Moynihan, just yesterday, that " Baroness Twycross (Labour) - View Video - View Transcript |
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11 Mar 2025, 4:55 p.m. - House of Lords "the benches opposite, the FOI request referred to by the noble Lord, Lord Moynihan, and the noble " Baroness Twycross (Labour) - View Video - View Transcript |
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11 Mar 2025, 5:15 p.m. - House of Lords "contents have it. Amendment five, Lord Moynihan. Not moved. Amendment " Lord Moynihan (Conservative) - View Video - View Transcript |
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11 Mar 2025, 5:15 p.m. - House of Lords "six, Lord Moynihan. >> My Lords, I rise to speak to " Lord Moynihan (Conservative) - View Video - View Transcript |
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11 Mar 2025, 5:21 p.m. - House of Lords ">> My Lords, I agree with my noble friend, Lord Moynihan, that the name of this group on the list circulated by the government with offices is a " Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay (Conservative) - View Video - View Transcript |
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11 Mar 2025, 5:21 p.m. - House of Lords "it is not clear that even the amendment that my noble friend, Lord Moynihan, has tabled today would make the bill hybrid, that is a sort " Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay (Conservative) - View Video - View Transcript |
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11 Mar 2025, 5:21 p.m. - House of Lords "and south, we stumbled across the conundrum really that my noble friend, Lord Moynihan, has set out here, that by trying to say on the " Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay (Conservative) - View Video - View Transcript |
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11 Mar 2025, 5:47 p.m. - House of Lords "we would not be supporting it. >> My Lords, I thank my noble friend, Lord Moynihan, for the " - View Video - View Transcript |
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11 Mar 2025, 5:47 p.m. - House of Lords "friend, Lord Moynihan, for the forensic way he set out the case for his amendment, number seven. Add the example with which he illustrated " Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay (Conservative) - View Video - View Transcript |
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11 Mar 2025, 3:45 p.m. - House of Lords "and Lord Moynihan and seeks to alter the stated purpose of the bill from the current wording, to protect and promote the sustainability of " Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay (Conservative) - View Video - View Transcript |
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17 Mar 2025, 4:28 p.m. - House of Lords "member 96, Lord Moynihan, I understand the Lord's view that the Secretary of State guidance is " Baroness Twycross (Labour) - View Video - View Transcript |
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17 Mar 2025, 3:57 p.m. - House of Lords "respect of her remarks, once despite being challenged from Lord Moynihan of Chelsea and myself today, she has " Lord Jackson of Peterborough (Conservative) - View Video - View Transcript |
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17 Mar 2025, 4:20 p.m. - House of Lords ">> I would like to thank the noble Lords, Lord Parkinson, Lord Goddard of Stockport, Lord Moynihan and the " Baroness Twycross (Labour) - View Video - View Transcript |
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17 Mar 2025, 4:20 p.m. - House of Lords "of Stockport, Lord Moynihan and the noble Lady Baroness Grey-Thompson for tabling amendments and Lord " Baroness Twycross (Labour) - View Video - View Transcript |
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Finance Bill
35 speeches (18,789 words) 2nd reading Wednesday 19th March 2025 - Lords Chamber HM Treasury Mentions: 1: Lord Livermore (Lab - Life peer) Historic tax rates and treatment will not change.The noble Lord, Lord Moynihan, spoke powerfully about - Link to Speech |
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Non-Domestic Rating (Multipliers and Private Schools) Bill
93 speeches (19,441 words) Report stage Tuesday 18th March 2025 - Lords Chamber Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government Mentions: 1: Lord Storey (LD - Life peer) I remind the noble Lord, Lord Moynihan, that Katarina Johnson-Thompson won a gold medal in the youth - Link to Speech 2: Lord Weir of Ballyholme (DUP - Life peer) What particularly persuades me towards the amendment from the noble Lord, Lord Moynihan, is that it ties - Link to Speech 3: None Amendments 27 and 29 are in the name of my noble friend Lord Moynihan. - Link to Speech 4: Lord Khan of Burnley (Lab - Life peer) I thank the noble Lords, Lord Lexden and Lord Moynihan, and the noble Baroness, Lady Barran, for their - Link to Speech |
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Football Governance Bill [HL]
125 speeches (28,323 words) Report stage Monday 17th March 2025 - Lords Chamber Mentions: 1: Lord Jackson of Peterborough (Con - Life peer) I am nevertheless grateful that her letter of 15 January to my noble friend Lord Moynihan of Chelsea—who - Link to Speech 2: Baroness Twycross (Lab - Life peer) to the Green and Hand report, which was forwarded to me —I am very grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Moynihan - Link to Speech 3: Lord Jackson of Peterborough (Con - Life peer) Once again, despite being challenged in the letter from my noble friend Lord Moynihan of Chelsea, and - Link to Speech 4: Baroness Twycross (Lab - Life peer) I thank the noble Lords, Lord Parkinson, Lord Goddard of Stockport and Lord Moynihan, and the noble Baroness - Link to Speech |
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Football Governance Bill [HL]
121 speeches (26,110 words) Report stage part one Tuesday 11th March 2025 - Lords Chamber Mentions: 1: None we discussed in Committee, tabled by my noble friends Lord Maude of Horsham, Lord Hayward and Lord Moynihan - Link to Speech 2: Lord Goddard of Stockport (LD - Life peer) My Lords, I almost expected the noble Lord, Lord Moynihan, to withdraw these two amendments following - Link to Speech 3: Baroness Twycross (Lab - Life peer) For those reasons, I ask the noble Lord, Lord Moynihan, to withdraw his amendment. - Link to Speech 4: Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay (Con - Life peer) It is not clear that even the amendment which my noble friend Lord Moynihan has moved would make the - Link to Speech 5: Lord Pannick (XB - Life peer) My Lords, I return to Amendment 7 in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Moynihan, seeking to leave out - Link to Speech |
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Football Governance Bill [HL]
55 speeches (12,508 words) Report stage part two Tuesday 11th March 2025 - Lords Chamber Mentions: 1: Lord Markham (Con - Life peer) My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lord Moynihan for his vital and very sensible amendments in this group - Link to Speech 2: Lord Watson of Invergowrie (Lab - Life peer) The noble Lord, Lord Moynihan, was briefer than I had anticipated; I had intended putting this point - Link to Speech 3: Baroness Twycross (Lab - Life peer) I thank the noble Lord, Lord Moynihan, for his amendments. - Link to Speech |
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House of Lords (Hereditary Peers) Bill
150 speeches (29,999 words) Committee stage part one Monday 3rd March 2025 - Lords Chamber Leader of the House Mentions: 1: Lord Forsyth of Drumlean (Con - Life peer) Are we going to throw out my noble friend Lord Moynihan, an Olympian, with his great experience and knowledge - Link to Speech 2: Lord Strathclyde (Con - Excepted Hereditary) My Lords, I think it is a little bit much for the noble Baroness to give my noble friend Lord Moynihan - Link to Speech 3: None My noble friend Lord Moynihan made precisely the point I made that it is perfectly reasonable for the - Link to Speech 4: Lord Blencathra (Con - Life peer) Lucas, the Earl of Lytton, Lord Mancroft, Lord Meston, the Duke of Montrose, Lord Mountevans, Lord Moynihan - Link to Speech |
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Mar. 14 2025
HL Bill 61-R-I Marshalled list for Report Non-Domestic Rating (Multipliers and Private Schools) Act 2024-26 Amendment Paper Found: LORD MOYNIHAN 27★_ Clause 5, page 5, line 40, at end insert “, or (b) persons in receipt of bursaries |
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Mar. 13 2025
HL Bill 59-II Second Marshalled list for Report Football Governance Bill [HL] 2024-26 Amendment Paper Found: clubs of complying with the provisions in this Act.” 19 Football Governance Bill [HL] Clause 91 LORD MOYNIHAN |
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Mar. 07 2025
HL Bill 59-I Marshalled list for Report Football Governance Bill [HL] 2024-26 Amendment Paper Found: LORD MOYNIHAN 4_ Clause 1, page 2, line 4, at end insert— “(3A) In exercising their powers and functions |
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Mar. 06 2025
HL Bill 59 Running list of amendments – 6 March 2025 Football Governance Bill [HL] 2024-26 Amendment Paper Found: Schedule 6 Title Clauses 25 to 67 [Amendments marked ★ are new or have been altered] Clause 1 LORD MOYNIHAN |
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Mar. 05 2025
HL Bill 59 Running list of amendments – 5 March 2025 Football Governance Bill [HL] 2024-26 Amendment Paper Found: Schedule 6 Title Clauses 25 to 67 [Amendments marked ★ are new or have been altered] Clause 3 LORD MOYNIHAN |
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Feb. 18 2025
Letter from Lord Hanson to Lord Moynihan, Lord De Mauley, Lord Parkinson and others regarding points raised during the Committee stage: application to sports grounds etc, sporting activities at schools, application to large highly publicised events, impacts on sports clubs, sporting events and cultural events, Impact Assessment. Terrorism (Protection of Premises) Act 2024-26 Will write letters Found: Letter from Lord Hanson to Lord Moynihan, Lord De Mauley, Lord Parkinson and others regarding points |