Sinn Fein: Parliamentary Oath of Allegiance

Debate between Lord Morris of Aberavon and Lord Shutt of Greetland

Tuesday 7th December 2010 Lords Chamber

[Lord Shutt of Greetland]

My Lords, I do not know whether I can add much, other than to state the belief that the Good Friday agreement means that the constitutional settlement is a settlement, and that there is no reason why Sinn Fein Members should not come to the other place. We are not aware, one way or the other, whether that is a major problem for them, or whether they would abstain from coming to the other place in any event. The Secretary of State has said that if Sinn Fein Members have a problem with the oath, they must raise it and see whether there is a way in which it might be solved. That is the position.

[Lord Morris of Aberavon]

My Lords, it is a mystery to some of us how Sinn Fein Members were able to claim the privileges of being Members of Parliament without taking the oath. Will the Government take on board that there would be wide repercussions in both Houses, and in public life generally, if there was a further dilution of long-established practices?

[Lord Shutt of Greetland]

I understand what the noble and learned Lord is saying. The position at the moment is that the Sinn Fein Members do not come here and do not claim a salary. They cannot have a salary because they do not come here. They can claim expenses because they still do constituency work: the other place agreed that that should be the case. They cannot claim £500,000: their expenses amount to somewhere in the region of £800,000.

Policing

Debate between Lord Morris of Aberavon and Lord Shutt of Greetland

Monday 26th July 2010 Lords Chamber

[Lord Morris of Aberavon]

My Lords—

[Lord Shutt of Greetland]

My Lords, I am afraid we are out of time.