All 1 Debates between Lord Inglewood and Lord Elystan-Morgan

Wed 2nd Nov 2016
Policing and Crime Bill
Lords Chamber

Committee: 3rd sitting (Hansard - part one): House of Lords & Committee: 3rd sitting (Hansard - part one): House of Lords

Policing and Crime Bill

Debate between Lord Inglewood and Lord Elystan-Morgan
Committee: 3rd sitting (Hansard - part one): House of Lords
Wednesday 2nd November 2016

(8 years ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Elystan-Morgan Portrait Lord Elystan-Morgan (CB)
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My Lords, I feel very privileged to add my humble voice to the very distinguished voices that have already spoken on this matter. Many, many years ago, in what was then the old Wales and Chester Circuit, a verdict was returned by a jury in south Wales: “just a little bit guilty”. That was in a trial so not dealing with exactly the same issue that is now before the Committee. We must be very careful not to have a wording that suggests that there may be just a little bit of evidence and no more. I am not exactly sure how that should be worded but I am sure that it is not beyond the wit of draftsmen to bring it about. Whether it should be by way of statute or some administrative provision, I leave to the good judgment of those concerned.

Lord Inglewood Portrait Lord Inglewood (Con)
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My Lords, I intervene briefly to say that I, too, support the principle behind my noble friend Lord Marlesford’s amendment. It seems to me that if the principle is that you should be innocent until proved guilty, you should be proved guilty on the evidence and not by innuendo.