Steel Industry (Nationalisation) Bill

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2nd reading
Tuesday 16th June 2026 Lords Chamber

[Lord Hunt of Wirral (Con)]

My Lords, I start by congratulating the Minister on his appointment last Friday as Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State at the Department for Business and Trade. He has a long established and proven track record of success in business. I hope that his voice will be heard loud and clear within government. I wish him well and hope that he will emerge from our debates with his reputation enhanced.

At the outset of this debate, I make it clear that my party accepts that steel is a strategic industry. Steel helped to build our past and I agree with the Minister that it will shape our future. It matters to our national resilience, to our defence capability, to our manufacturing base, to our construction sector and to communities right across the country. Recognising the importance of steel is not, however, the same as accepting that nationalisation is the necessary answer. The central issue facing the sector is competitiveness, and the Government have still to set out a credible plan to address just that.

Last week, Al Carns, who was then Minister for the Armed Forces, resigned from the Government. He has since argued that energy policy has to be treated as a matter of security, but high energy costs are making British steel less competitive globally. The Government’s chosen path towards lower carbon production will dramatically increase the sector’s reliance on electricity and therefore require very substantial capital investment. The industry itself has warned that high electricity prices risk undermining its long-term plans to decarbonise. The Government acknowledge that steel is vital to national security. If that is the case, surely the energy policy upon which steel depends must also be judged through the lens of national security, resilience and industrial capability.

The Government came to office promising a £2.5 billion steel fund—a fund that was supposed to transform the sector, modernise production, support new technology and crowd in private investment. There is now a real risk that that money will be used not to transform British Steel but simply to plug the losses created by the Government’s failure to address the underlying causes of uncompetitiveness.

If hundreds of millions of pounds are being spent merely to keep British Steel operating day to day, and if still more liabilities are now to be brought on to the public balance sheet through nationalisation, how much of that £2.5 billion will be left for genuine transformation? How much will remain available to support new technologies, energy-efficiency improvements and the investment needed to secure the industry’s long-term future?

This leads to a more fundamental question: where does this end? Will British Steel, under public ownership, be expected eventually to stand on its own two feet, or will taxpayers be asked to fund operating losses year after year, while Ministers continue to promise that help is just around the corner? Before Parliament grants these powers, surely it is reasonable to ask what the end state is, what the exit strategy is and how the Government intend to measure success beyond simply writing more and larger cheques.

The Government’s impact assessment makes it clear that the costs of this Bill will be substantial. These costs include the possibility of capital injections, working capital support, operating costs if the company remains loss making, compensation, administrative overheads, and the expenditure inherent in establishing and running a government-owned company. So I ask the Minister what the Government’s estimate of the total cost is. Will Parliament be told that figure before the Bill receives Royal Assent?

We must also question the Government’s approach to ensuring environmentally friendly steel. Ministers have chosen a pathway that the industry warned will be more costly, more electricity-intensive and thus more difficult to finance. In the other place, the Secretary of State Peter Kyle said that

“the long-term future of the UK steel sector relies on public and private investment”.—[Official Report, Commons, 21/5/26; col. 787.]

If the Government’s preferred model drives up costs and makes the United Kingdom less attractive than competitor countries not operating under the same net-zero constraints, where is that private investment supposed to come from? Investors can choose where they deploy capital; if the Government make steel production more expensive, more regulated and more politically uncertain, they will look elsewhere.

The Government’s impact assessment of 13 May is clear and explicit about the risk to investment. I quote its paragraph 75:

“One potential impact is a chilling effect on investment as investors may perceive an increased risk of government intervention. This could increase uncertainty for investors and therefore deter future investment in the UK steel sector. If investors perceive these risks as material, they could further undermine the recovery of the sector, putting jobs and capabilities at risk”.


This is a remarkable admission from any Government.

The Government have also not properly addressed the wider trade risk. If British Steel is to be subject to constant and persistent subsidisation at the expense of the taxpayer, Ministers must explain how they intend to ensure that this remains compliant with the United Kingdom’s international obligations. Prolonged state support, if not carefully structured, could risk challenge under WTO subsidy rules and invite countervailing measures from trading partners. That would not be a theoretical concern; other countries could impose countervailing duties, raise disputes or just take other retaliatory action if they believe that UK steel is being unfairly subsidised.

Such action could not only harm British Steel itself but damage the wider UK steel sector and the downstream industries that rely on steel inputs, including automotive, aerospace, defence, construction and advanced manufacturing. Can the Minister therefore tell the House what assessment the Government have made of the WTO implications of the Bill and of any continuing public subsidy to British Steel? Have Ministers had any discussions with the World Trade Organization or major trading partners about the proposed structure of support? What conversations do they intend to have before any transfer into public ownership takes place?

On the issue of trade, I also raise the significant concerns expressed by stakeholders across industry about the Government’s steel strategy and, in particular, their tariff policy. The Government appear to have conducted a partial U-turn: it seems that we did not need to wait 12 months for a formal review for Ministers to discover that tariffs can be harmful—if only more than a century of economic history had already taught us that.

The first point is one of parliamentary accountability: any change to the Government’s steel tariff regime should be reported to Parliament first, so why are Members of both Houses having to learn through the media about possible changes? That is just not acceptable, and it gives the impression of a Government making up policy in response to headlines rather than setting out a coherent and properly examined trade strategy.

We have already seen the risks of retaliation. We have seen concerns in relation to the United States and questions raised on India, including the possible implications for the trade deal. We now read of concerns about the European Union, with reports that the Secretary of State has been to the EU to plead with it not to reduce tariff-free imports of British steel. What did the Government expect? If the UK chooses to escalate protectionist measures, it should not be surprised when trading partners respond in kind. Retaliation was not unforeseeable; it was predictable. We saw the European Union respond in precisely this way to President Trump’s tariffs. Did the Government really fail to assess that risk before introducing their own regime?

Countermeasures, reduced market access and increased uncertainty could all make it much harder for UK producers to export, and harder for investors to commit capital. At the same time, tariffs risk raising costs for downstream sectors that rely and depend on steel inputs —metal forming, automotive, aerospace, construction, defence and advanced manufacturing among them. These sectors are central to growth, productivity and investment. If tariffs increase their costs, reduce their competitiveness or force them to source elsewhere, the Government will have weakened the very industrial base they claim to be trying to strengthen.

I therefore ask the Minister: what assessment has been made of the impact of the steel tariff regime on downstream manufacturers? What assessment has been made of possible or likely retaliation by trading partners? Why should British businesses have confidence in a strategy that appears to protect one part of the supply chain by imposing costs and risks on so many others? We cannot just ignore the wider business climate the Government have created.

I am not going to go into detail about the Employment Rights Act 2025, but that will not stop me raising it, because it is making the business environment less competitive and less conducive to investment. Combined with those increased national insurance contributions, endless reporting requirements and carbon taxes, the Government are damaging the steel sector, along with every other sector of the UK economy. For a steel sector already operating under intense global pressure, these additional costs affect hiring, investment, margins, productivity and the ability of British steelmakers to compete. In the light of the importance to our national security, the steel sector may be a special case, but that does not mean it is immune to the effects of wider government policy.

Many questions remain to be answered. At this point, His Majesty’s Opposition are far from convinced that nationalisation is the best option, or even the so-called least worst option, but we are eager to hear some, or better still all, of those questions answered as the Bill progresses. Steel has shaped our nation’s history. The challenge now is to secure a future for the industry that is internationally competitive, financially sustainable and attractive to investors.

Working From Home (Home-based Working Committee Report)

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Wednesday 10th June 2026 Lords Chamber

[Lord Hunt of Wirral (Con)]

My Lords, I start by declaring my interest as a partner and practising solicitor with DAC Beachcroft.

What an interesting debate this has been. I congratulate the noble Baroness, Lady Scott of Needham Market. I have served with her on committees before. She has great skill, and this report is a testament to her success. It is also a fact that so many of the members of her committee have contributed to the debate, which does not often happen—and it has been of great advantage. It has also been marvellous to hear from my noble friend Lord Sharma about how it all started around the time that he was in the Cabinet. That gave the whole debate a degree of context.

I very much welcome the report and the opportunity it provides to examine, as my noble friend Lord Monks pointed out right at the start of the debate, one of the most important shifts in working practice of the modern era. He is quite right to highlight the fact that we are now facing further shifts through AI, and I found his speech very valuable.

I will begin with what should be the foundational principle underpinning our approach: the Government have to take a step back and allow private sector employers to determine the working practices they believe are best for their businesses and their workforce, whether that is full time, fully remote or some hybrid arrangements in between.

As my noble friend Lady Bottomley of Nettlestone pointed out, the role of the chief people officer has become so important. It was good to hear a number of views about flexible working, although I say to the noble Lord, Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe—whom I call my noble friend—that I hope that his idea of Parliament working from home full-time is not to be taken too seriously. I also enjoyed the revelations from the noble Lord, Hampton, on some of his practices in the past.

It has been an entertaining and interesting debate, but I will try to join other speakers in looking at the whole picture. Across the length and breadth of this country, different approaches work for different sectors, firms and communities. Employers have had to adapt, often at pace and at significant cost, particularly since the pandemic turned working life on its head almost overnight. What the report rightly recognises—and what the Government should take to heart—is that there is no one-size-fits-all answer. Employer flexibility is what matters most, and it should be remembered that businesses operating in a free market have every incentive to create the most productive workforce they can. They do not need the Government to tell them how to arrange their own affairs.

I worry that the Government seemed to have moved in the opposite direction. Through the Employment Rights Act 2025, Ministers have introduced a strengthened right to flexible working, making it considerably more difficult for employers to introduce that concept. This provision is expected to come into force in 2027, subject to consultation, yet the Government have confirmed—as the noble Baroness, Lady Scott of Needham Market, pointed out in her introductory speech—that the legislation does not intend to provide a definition of “reasonableness”. One must ask: what precisely is the point? If the threshold test is “reasonableness” but Parliament declines to define what “reasonable” means, all we have done is transfer the question from the employer’s boardroom to the employment tribunal. We have not resolved it; we have simply moved the uncertainty—and at considerable cost to businesses and to a tribunal system already operating under severe strain, as many have pointed out. The report warns of the prospect of “years of litigation”, if the legislation is not defined clearly and effectively. That is not a fringe concern raised by business lobby groups; it has been raised by the Select Committee itself.

It is worth reminding the Chamber what currently exists in the ACAS code of practice. An employer may reject a flexible working request but only on one of eight specified grounds, including

“the burden of additional costs … an inability to reorganise work amongst existing staff … an inability to recruit additional staff … a detrimental impact on quality … a detrimental impact on performance … a detrimental effect on ability to meet customer demand … insufficient work available for the periods the employee proposes to work … planned structural changes to the employer’s business”.

These are not arbitrary barriers erected to frustrate workers—far from it; they are carefully calibrated, operationally grounded reasons that reflect the genuine commercial judgments an employer must be able to make. Why are the Government seeking to erode that flexibility? What evidence exists that the current framework is insufficient to protect workers who have a legitimate case?

My noble friends Lady Manzoor and Lady Bottomley turned to productivity. Considering what effect any future changes in legislation will have on productivity must surely be a central priority for any Government serious about growth. The picture the report paints is—to put it mildly—inconclusive. Boosting productivity across the labour market is one of the great challenges of our time, but there is insufficient data. As the eminent scientist, the noble Baroness, Lady Watkins of Tavistock, asked: where is the data? Why do we not have sufficient grounds on which to base our judgments? The ONS already admits that there is insufficient data, so we look to the Minister to make sure that we have the necessary data.

Another element ran through the debate. I had the opportunity to bring forward employment legislation—it was 42 years ago, so I am sorry to raise it. I introduced a scheme called Access to Work, which we have touched on several times in this debate. With that scheme, we sought to make it possible for people with a disability—people from various backgrounds—to have the necessary equipment to enable them to work alongside people who did not have any disability. In many ways, the question that we are now asking and that this report highlights is: what are we going to do to meet the challenges not only of flexible working but of artificial intelligence? How will we make sure that young people today have the opportunities they need?

My noble friend Lord Fink raised the question of young people. Can the Minister think through the need for solutions to be found by the Government? Mr Milburn will produce his report later this year. Now with over 1 million people not in education, employment or training, there are serious problems ahead if we are to give opportunities right across the field, in particular to young people. I hope that the Minister will do more than the Government did in their very brief response to the report. I also hope that she will be able to bring us up to date with what the Government said in paragraph 9 of their response; namely, that they

“will take forward a number of priority actions, including strengthening cross-government research and analysis efforts, and exploring how best to target information and advice to line managers”.

What does all that mean? That was several weeks ago, so what has happened since? It also states that they will

“establish a more structured, official-led stakeholder group”.

Has that group now been established? If so, can the Minister give us a full report on what has been achieved so far? This report requires a much more detailed response.

If there is a case for this Select Committee to continue, it has been made. I am sorry to say this to all its members present, but I think that this work is so valuable that it needs to continue. In the meantime, we look forward to hearing from the Minister.

King’s Speech

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Thursday 14th May 2026 Lords Chamber

[Lord Hunt of Wirral (Con)]

My Lords, is a great pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Barber of Chittlehampton, given his background as head of the Prime Minister’s policy unit under Tony Blair. Also, if I might, I will commend to colleagues his book, entitled Instruction to Deliver, which sets out very much the message he was giving about outcomes.

I refer back to the comment by the noble Lord, Lord Fox, about the steel industry, because the National Audit Office—he will know the importance of that institution—has produced a very detailed report. Rather like the noble Lord, I found the announcement that the Government now seek the power to nationalise British Steel to be fascinating—although perhaps not surprising, because it should be seen for what it is: not the emergence of a plan but the admission that a plan has already failed.

A year ago, Ministers came to Parliament—and we all arrived here on a Saturday, specially—to provide the emergency powers needed to prevent the imminent closure of the blast furnaces at Scunthorpe. We were told that this was a temporary intervention, that constructive discussions with Jingye were continuing, that the taxpayer’s support was recoverable, and that there was a route to a commercial solution. I do not know whether this features in the book, but I am reminded of Milton Friedman’s observation that there is nothing so permanent as a temporary government programme. Well, after all that, we are back precisely where the Government insisted on that day that we were not going: nationalisation anyway. The question for Ministers is simple: what has been bought for the money already spent?

The National Audit Office, releasing its investigation into the Government’s intervention in British Steel’s Scunthorpe site, revealed that, by 31 January this year, the department had spent £377 million on this and that costs were expected to exceed £642 million by June. That means £1.3 million to £1.4 million every single day. The NAO further observed that

“DBT intervened without a clear exit strategy”

and warned that the intervention has not stabilised the company’s finances, that there is no clear end date, and that spending could exceed £1.5 billion by 2028 before transformation costs, compensation to Jingye, or exit costs are even considered. This is not a rounding error, nor a bridging loan, nor a prudent investment patiently awaiting a return. It is a daily call on the taxpayer to keep alive a business that Ministers have still not shown can be made viable.

In paragraph 2.6 of its investigation, the NAO records:

“Advice provided by DBT officials to ministers on 28 March”


2025

“noted that there was ‘no affordable solution to maintain steel-making at Scunthorpe’ … the advice recommended that the government ‘not intervene to stop the company from making commercial decisions to close’. DBT told us that it had no budget or legal power to intervene at that time, and that there was no strong value for money case to do so, advising instead to focus on the impact on the local area and to support steelmaking elsewhere”.

Over the subsequent 14 months, apparent operating losses have doubled, while production levels have fallen further. What is the value-for-money justification today? Ministers will say, of course, that British Steel is strategically important, and no one disputes that steel matters—for defence, construction, rail, energy and manufacturing. The question is not whether steel matters but whether this Government have a credible plan to make steelmaking in Britain competitive, and at present I do not believe that they do.

Nor can this debate be separated from the Government’s new tariff regime. From July, the Government propose to cut tariff-free steel quotas by 60% and impose a 50% tariff above quota. Ministers describe that as protection for British steelmaking, but, for automotive, construction, aerospace and engineering businesses, it is a direct increase in input costs.

Think of the automotive manufacturer already under pressure from the Government’s EV mandate, the construction firm facing squeezed margins and higher material prices or the exporter using steel as an input. They are facing higher costs at home and fiercer competition abroad. All of them will inevitably pay the price, a high price, for a policy framed as saving jobs in one turn while quietly making jobs more expensive to sustain in many other places.

There is also a profound contradiction running through the Government’s position on energy and steel production more broadly. India, to cite one example, is driving a substantial share of the global rise in coal-based steel capacity, expanding output, expanding furnaces and expanding its competitive position in world markets. In contrast, this Government have banned domestic coking coal production, pushing domestic steel-makers towards more expensive alternatives, and then seemingly wonder why the taxpayer must step in to make the difference. The result is that we make domestic production more expensive, restrict cheaper imports and load the industry with additional regulatory costs, and then we present the bill to British industry.

When the noble Lord winds up this debate, can we please have a strategy for steel? The Government published one, but it does not have the long-term impact that we all want to see. Steel has been the backbone of this nation. It must be part of its future too, and it is about time that we had a clear strategy that takes us all further forward.

Statutory Instruments (Amendment) Bill [HL]

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2nd reading
Friday 18th October 2024 Lords Chamber

[Lord Hunt of Wirral (Con)]

My Lords, I first declare my interests as set out in the register; in particular, I have the honour to chair the Secondary Legislation Scrutiny Committee. I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Thomas of Gresford, on putting forward this measure, and I have to tell him that I am favourably disposed to his Bill. I also congratulate him on the most enjoyable journey into the history which he has given the House.

However, I speak in a personal capacity; I do not seek to speak for the committee I chair or for the party of which I am a member. Before I joined the SLSC, I was aware there were serious shortcomings in far too much of the secondary legislation that continues to burgeon under Governments of every hue. I just had no idea how serious the problem was.

I agree with the noble Lord, Lord Thomas of Gresford: the system we have is anachronistic. Despite our best efforts and those of our excellent but small team of clerks, we struggle to cope, not only with the sheer volume of secondary legislation but with its all too frequent inadequacies.

The reasons why an instrument might fall short are set out in the terms of reference of the SLSC, in section 3. Despite repeated ministerial undertakings, inadequate explanatory material is the principal culprit—seemingly an endemic problem across almost every government department.

I am very proud of the work we do and of the absence of partisanship across the committee. However, if the ever-expanding reliance upon secondary legislation is now to be a fact of life, we can no longer rely on rules and conventions designed for an earlier era. Although we provide a useful service to the House in pointing out when an SI falls short on one of the grounds, it is frustrating that in response to that scrutiny this House can do no more than object in the form of a regret Motion. It would improve the quality of secondary legislation and the balance of power between the legislature and the Executive if there were a stronger mechanism for the House to object to an SI, while still falling short of rejecting it altogether. This is exactly what the noble Lord, Lord Thomas, is proposing. I congratulate him on his initiative and look forward very much indeed to hearing the Minister.

Preparing for Extreme Risks (RARPC Report)

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Thursday 12th January 2023 Lords Chamber

[Lord Hunt of Wirral (Con)]

My Lords, I declare my insurance and legal interests as set out in the register. Like other noble Lords, I welcome the Government’s resilience framework and its focus on building our understanding of risks and preparation. We have seen in recent times, particularly during the pandemic, how interconnected and complex our world has become. Having a common and comprehensive framework to build resilience and mobilise the whole of society around resilience is a significant step change in addressing the issues we face.

Many congratulations to my noble friend Lord Arbuthnot and his colleagues on this committee for producing what I feel, having now read it several times, is one of the best reports of its kind that I have ever scrutinised. As the report rightly observes, the Covid-19 pandemic exposed significant shortcomings in our national emergency planning. The considerable resilience that was displayed was all the more remarkable given those shortcomings. I do not know how many of my colleagues watched the film “Contagion”: if only we had paid a bit more attention to some of the episodes in that film, we would have been better prepared. Anyway, it is going to take many years for a definitive report on our response to the pandemic to appear, but it is, in my view, never too soon to start probing the ashes and thinking about what worked and what did not.

I do not think that anyone foresaw the profound disruption to the lives and education of students and pupils, many of whose vital exam years were horribly affected by the pandemic across three academic years—enough to blight a student’s entire time at university. The decades-long policy of reducing the number of beds in the NHS also began to look rather questionable, as those field hospitals were rapidly set up just in case the pandemic ran out of control.

Once again, the exemplary response of our Armed Forces was a model of its kind: brisk, efficient and to the point. As we look forward to future resilience planning, I think—as my noble friend pointed out in his opening remarks—that there is one aspect which is somewhat under-represented at present. A couple of days ago, we debated the Financial Services and Markets Bill, and I called for a closer partnership between government and our formidable financial services industry. My focus then was principally on the potential benefits for the industry and, streaming from that, for the UK economy. I think that the Government could gain too by drawing more upon the very considerable expertise that the private sector has to offer in the field of risk assessment.

I know very well from all my dealings with the insurance industry, particularly when I chaired the British Insurance Brokers’ Association, that the accurate assessment and quantification of risk is bread and butter for that industry. As the report rightly points out, the Government tend to focus disproportionately on higher-likelihood risks at the expense, in particular, of potentially high-impact risks that are believed to have a relatively low likelihood. The insurance industry, not least through its experience with climate change and, before that, long-tail industrial illness and asbestos-related claims, has learned the dangers of such an approach. I hope that colleagues on all sides will consider drawing more on private sector expertise in risk assessment and risk management.

Biosecurity, energy security, and food security—the very foundations of our social, economic and political order—are under severe threat. If we still believe, as I certainly do, that prevention is better than cure, then calmly, coolly and sensibly, I hope we shall follow the wise advice in this report and look to the future, not through rose-tinted spectacles, but in the light of the cold realities of 2023 and beyond in the longer term, using all the expertise at our disposal.

UK Cash Network

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Monday 8th November 2021 Lords Chamber

[Lord Agnew of Oulton (Con)]

My Lords, basic bank accounts are one requirement of the banking system; the nine largest account providers are required to provide this to customers, and there are some 7 million basic accounts open with these providers. They are easier to open than ordinary bank accounts, and that facility remains available.

[Lord Hunt of Wirral (Con)]

I first draw attention to my interests as set out in the register, particularly as an independent director of LINK. Does my noble friend the Minister have an indication of when the fundamental review of financial services regulation will be concluded? Given that the pressure on cash infrastructure is now so acute, what news is there of the work the FCA is overseeing with the banks on developing a much-needed plan to protect cash infrastructure?

[Lord Agnew of Oulton (Con)]

My noble friend asks important questions. On access to cash, as I said in earlier answers, the Government are committed to legislating to protect access to cash and ensuring that the UK’s cash infrastructure is sustainable in the long term. In answer to my noble friend’s second question, the Government are undertaking a wider financial services future regulatory review, which aims to build on the strengths of the UK’s existing framework as set out in the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000. An initial consultation exploring these issues and a proposed approach was published by the Treasury in October last year, and we had 120 responses. We will publish a second consultation with detailed proposals shortly.

Cash Network

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Tuesday 7th September 2021 Lords Chamber

[Lord Agnew of Oulton (Con)]

My Lords, to reiterate my earlier point, there are some 40,000 cash machines that are free at the point of use; they are sustained through an interconnection charge between the banks. As for what the Government are doing, in the Financial Services Act of this year we legislated to allow cashback without purchases. That became law in June this year, and it is something where everyone’s interests are aligned: the retailer gets the opportunity to increase footfall into their shops and to reduce the cost of having to bank cash, which is expensive. We are optimistic that this will provide a wide range of additional outlets for cash.

[Lord Hunt of Wirral (Con)]

I declare my interest as an independent non-executive director of Link. What are the Government’s plans to ensure that an effective hub network of physical access to financial services is maintained right across the country in the future? Amid the increasing tension that exists between banks, post offices, the banks’ attempts at hub pilots and local shop services such as cashback, what are the Government doing to co-ordinate the picture to ensure we have free access to cash?

[Lord Agnew of Oulton (Con)]

My Lords, the Government welcome industry efforts to develop solutions to provide continued access to financial services. The community access to cash pilots are an industry-led initiative, taking place in eight locations in the UK at the moment. These are trialling and testing sustainable solutions for ensuring that communities can conveniently withdraw and deposit cash. The Government’s proposals for cash will enable firms to use a range of solutions, including existing facilities, to provide access to cash for the purpose of meeting geographic requirements, provided they are judged to be delivering reasonable access by the responsible regulator.

Budget Statement

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Friday 12th March 2021 Lords Chamber

[Lord Hunt of Wirral (Con) [V]]

My Lords, I am proud to have the opportunity to pay tribute to a brilliant maiden speech by my noble friend Lord Benyon. It sets a very high standard for us all. My noble friend quickly made a significant impact as MP for Newbury. After a distinguished career, which he has already mentioned, in the Royal Green Jackets and in local government, he was Wildlife Minister for several years, and greatly respected as a man of principle, particularly when, on an important issue, he had the Conservative Whip removed—but only for a few weeks. I have to tell my noble friend that he is warmly welcomed on these Benches. We look forward to hearing his wise words and skilful guidance in future debates for many years to come.

I draw attention to the register, in particular my interest as a partner at DAC Beachcroft, the global legal firm. I strongly welcome this Budget. The furlough scheme has so far slowed the rise in unemployment but, sadly, sooner or later, we know that many jobs will be lost. When I became Employment Secretary in 1993 we were emerging from another short and sharp recession. A decade of supply-side reforms had given us the most flexible labour market in Europe, an advantage we still possess. We also had a range of creative measures to support people into work. I even went to the TUC, at the kind invitation of the noble Lord, Lord Monks, and gave an unprecedented commitment to full employment. I hope that this Budget will, in due course, enable this Government to proclaim a similar aspiration to ensure that every citizen can enjoy the dignity of work.

Financial Services Bill

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2nd reading & 2nd reading (Hansard) & 2nd reading (Hansard): House of Lords
Thursday 28th January 2021 Lords Chamber

[Lord Hunt of Wirral (Con)]

My Lords, I first draw attention to my interests as set out in the register and I congratulate my noble friend Lord Hammond of Runnymede on a maiden speech of great breadth and insight, which served to underline what a considerable asset he is going to be to these Benches in particular and to this House more widely. As my noble friend reminded us, he has served with distinction in a number of departments, culminating in his time as Chancellor of the Exchequer. How right he was to point out huge sectors of our economy, in particular financial services, where we are not in the business of finessing a new relationship with the European Union but are yet to ensure that there are any arrangements at all. When my noble friend speaks on economic matters, he does so with rare authority and I look forward to hearing much more from him.

There is one specific point that I would like to develop in my remarks today. The Financial Services and Markets Act 2000—FiSMA—set out four objectives for the Financial Services Authority, the FSA, as it then was: market confidence, public awareness, the protection of consumers and the reduction of financial crime. In addition, the FSA was required to have regard to a number of other factors, including efficiency, proportionality, innovation and

“the international character of financial services and markets and the desirability of maintaining the competitive position of the United Kingdom.”

The Financial Services Act 2012, in response to the 2008 banking crisis, removed that requirement because it was argued that it had served to dilute the robustness of regulation. This argument was founded on an entirely false dichotomy between effective regulation and international competitiveness, for the truth is that a robust, respected and proportionate regulatory regime is an intrinsic part of the UK’s competitive advantage in financial services. We now have the future regulatory framework review. In its phase 2 consultation paper, which I happen to have with me, the Government acknowledged this:

“A gap in the original FiSMA model is that, while it set high-level general objectives and principles, it did not provide for government and Parliament to set the policy approach for specific areas of financial services regulation.”


A partial move towards more activity-specific regulation is seemingly adumbrated in Schedule 3 to the Bill, which has been referred to by the noble Lord, Lord Sharkey. This would require the PRA, when considering capital requirements regulation, to have regard to

“the likely effect of the rules on the relative standing of the United Kingdom as a place for internationally active credit institutions and investment firms to be based or to carry on activities.”

A similar obligation is to be imposed on the FCA when making Part 9C rules in relation to internationally active investment firms. So competitiveness is edging slowly and surely back into the picture sector by sector and it is a process that I believe many of us want to see accelerate in the months ahead. I also hope that the Government will now come forward with a clear action plan to establish the UK not only as the world centre for broking—that is to say, the selling of insurance and reinsurance—but as the natural home for insurers and reinsurers.

I warmly welcome the Bill because it suggests a direction of travel that will deliver the high-quality, agile and responsive regulation that we need, putting the UK at the forefront of the world market in terms of competitiveness, consumer protection and innovation.

EU-UK Trade and Cooperation Agreement

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Friday 8th January 2021 Lords Chamber

[Lord Hunt of Wirral (Con)]

My Lords, I draw attention to my entry in the register. I share the general relief that a deal was achieved, but the agreement does not cover services.

I am proud of the UK insurance and long-term savings industry—the fourth largest in the world—and there are three connected matters that I would like to raise. The first is the so-called green card. We assume that the UK will remain in the scheme, but early confirmation is vital. Secondly, it is high time that the Government reintroduced an international competitiveness duty into the UK’s regulatory framework.

Thirdly, on equivalence, the UK has granted Solvency II equivalence to EU insurers and reinsurers under all three tests, and we must now seek reciprocal recognition from the EU of the UK’s prudential regime. Equivalence would offer much-needed stability, but I believe that we must fashion far bolder plans for the future. Our skill at brokering insurance is nonpareil, but it is striking how few major international firms have even considered locating their headquarters in the UK. To establish the UK as the leader in financial services, we need a comprehensive strategy with support from the very top to make this an attractive place to be. This requires a proportionate and effective regulatory regime, but it is also about schools, neighbourhoods and the sectors that are being cruelly punished by the pandemic—notably, our hospitality and creative sectors. We must press for what my noble friend the Minister mentioned earlier—reciprocal, visa-free travel arrangements for touring performers and crews.

So, the withdrawal agreement is wholly welcome but we must now move swiftly from the era of mitigation to an era of opportunity.