House of Lords (Hereditary Peers) Bill
Debate between Lord Grocott and Earl of Erroll
Report stage
Wednesday 9th July 2025
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Wednesday 9th July 2025
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Lord Grocott (Lab)
If the noble Lord, Lord True, cannot see the difference in category between a life Peer who can sit in here and legislate and a life Peer who cannot, then we are going to have considerable difficulty in having a sensible discussion. They are obviously fundamentally different, just as there is a fundamental difference between a hereditary Peer who cannot sit in this House because he is not one of the favoured 92, and a hereditary Peer who can. Believe me, they know the difference—and I am sure the life Peers would, as well.
The Earl of Erroll (CB)
Just to help the noble Lord’s confusion, there are the courtesy titles of the younger sons of certain levels of the peerage.